Considering Chevy's Current Model Designations Will We See Z28 Again?
Re: Considering Chevy's Current Model Designations Will We See Z28 Again?
I've never actually had the opportunity to see or sit in a new GTO in person, but please tell me that they don't have the infamous "cat hump", so I can (tentatively) look forward to not seeing this in the 5th gen.
Re: Considering Chevy's Current Model Designations Will We See Z28 Again?
Originally Posted by thesoundandthefury
I've never actually had the opportunity to see or sit in a new GTO in person, but please tell me that they don't have the infamous "cat hump", so I can (tentatively) look forward to not seeing this in the 5th gen.
First thing I noticed when my buddy got his..
Re: Considering Chevy's Current Model Designations Will We See Z28 Again?
Since we're on the subject... some more early Z/28 trivia:
The original Z28 was planned for a 283 (I believe it was Vince Piggins who first suggested that a 327 with a 283 crank would displace 302 c.i., just under the SCCA's 305 c.i.d. displacement max for the class)
Several Trans Am Camaros were actually converted SS-350's or even L30/M20's (327 c.i.-275hp & 4spd). In fact Z28 #1 (the first production Z28 driven by Johnny Moore) had a matching # 1968 327 & 4spd when its current owner Jon Mello purchased it a few years ago. It ends up the original owners pulled its drivetrain after the 1967 season, swapped it with the new 1968 Coupe, painted it '68 ralley green and returned it to street duty.
In 1969 GM successfully homologated the TH350 for Trans Am use, although it was never available as an option on the Z28. (They used the SS production numbers to do this.)
http://www.1967z28.com/gallery/fullr...moore-main.htm
http://www.camaro-untoldsecrets.com/welcome_fs.htm
The original Z28 was planned for a 283 (I believe it was Vince Piggins who first suggested that a 327 with a 283 crank would displace 302 c.i., just under the SCCA's 305 c.i.d. displacement max for the class)
Several Trans Am Camaros were actually converted SS-350's or even L30/M20's (327 c.i.-275hp & 4spd). In fact Z28 #1 (the first production Z28 driven by Johnny Moore) had a matching # 1968 327 & 4spd when its current owner Jon Mello purchased it a few years ago. It ends up the original owners pulled its drivetrain after the 1967 season, swapped it with the new 1968 Coupe, painted it '68 ralley green and returned it to street duty.
In 1969 GM successfully homologated the TH350 for Trans Am use, although it was never available as an option on the Z28. (They used the SS production numbers to do this.)
http://www.1967z28.com/gallery/fullr...moore-main.htm
http://www.camaro-untoldsecrets.com/welcome_fs.htm
Re: Considering Chevy's Current Model Designations Will We See Z28 Again?
Originally Posted by Red Planet
actually, the base Camaro in 1967 was an inline 230ci 6 cylinder.......with 250 ci as optional or a V8...............
Yup, and I gots me one of those base 230's. My convertible is a plain Jane as anything.
Re: Considering Chevy's Current Model Designations Will We See Z28 Again?
Originally Posted by Red Planet
Look at it this way......
When people say "I drive a Z28...."...a lot (and I do mean a lot) of people right away know it's a Camaro. When they say "I drive an SS"....you really have no idea of what the car or truck is...other than a Chevy.
Another thought.....
....the SS went away for quite a few years ....then returned.
(am I making you crazy yet???)
When people say "I drive a Z28...."...a lot (and I do mean a lot) of people right away know it's a Camaro. When they say "I drive an SS"....you really have no idea of what the car or truck is...other than a Chevy.
Another thought.....
....the SS went away for quite a few years ....then returned.
(am I making you crazy yet???)
It was not too many years ago, that someone at GM, involved with the Camaro (not RP, BTW), even told me that GM's research showed that not very many people even recognize the Z/28 name.
Boy!!! My hair lit on fire.
Let's hope GM ends up doing the right thing.
Last edited by Z284ever; Nov 30, 2005 at 12:59 PM.
Re: Considering Chevy's Current Model Designations Will We See Z28 Again?
Well hell if we are ordering here:
Lemans Blue
T-Top
Z/28 Option
6 speed stick
BTW I'd like mine with White stripes outlined in a black then red pinstripe.
Interior either black or red.
Oh yea must have an autographed copy of your book Scott in the glove compartment
Lemans Blue
T-Top
Z/28 Option
6 speed stick
BTW I'd like mine with White stripes outlined in a black then red pinstripe.
Interior either black or red.
Oh yea must have an autographed copy of your book Scott in the glove compartment
Last edited by Brandon_Lutz; Nov 30, 2005 at 03:40 PM.
Re: Considering Chevy's Current Model Designations Will We See Z28 Again?
Originally Posted by Brandon_Lutz
Oh yea must have an autographed copy of your book Scott in the glove compartment 

OH FUDGE! i forgot to ask for a copy of "All Camaros are from Mars" in my glovebox signed by Scott, is it too late????????
and i'd like to add alittle more to jg95z28's trivia:
the first 302 engines that Chevy produced were actually 283 blocks machined to accept the 327's crank and pistons. this left very little metal seperating the cylinders and the cooling jackets around them, which led Chevy to use the 327 blocks and "destroke" them with the 283's crankshaft.
Re: Considering Chevy's Current Model Designations Will We See Z28 Again?
My turn...
Black with White Deck Stripes
Tall rear spoiler
Black leather interior with Houndstooth inserts
6-speed automatic
3.73 rearend
Classic wheel look in 17's & 18's (torque thrust look)
Throughty exhaust tone
onstar
PL/PW
Top of the line stereo system thats unrivled in its class
Deep tinted windows
I also want a ratings plate somewhere in the interior like the old vettes and some Camaros had that says what the engine size is, hp/tq ratings etc...
Thanks!
Black with White Deck Stripes
Tall rear spoiler
Black leather interior with Houndstooth inserts
6-speed automatic
3.73 rearend
Classic wheel look in 17's & 18's (torque thrust look)
Throughty exhaust tone
onstar
PL/PW
Top of the line stereo system thats unrivled in its class
Deep tinted windows
I also want a ratings plate somewhere in the interior like the old vettes and some Camaros had that says what the engine size is, hp/tq ratings etc...
Thanks!
Re: Considering Chevy's Current Model Designations Will We See Z28 Again?
for moi:
1) black on black hard top
2) manual locks and windows
3) no a/c
4) 6sd manual
5) stiffest suspension
6) cloth seats
7) best stereo.
1) black on black hard top
2) manual locks and windows
3) no a/c
4) 6sd manual
5) stiffest suspension
6) cloth seats
7) best stereo.
Re: Considering Chevy's Current Model Designations Will We See Z28 Again?
Originally Posted by turbo96z28
OH FUDGE! i forgot to ask for a copy of "All Camaros are from Mars" in my glovebox signed by Scott, is it too late????????
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well now, we HAVE a TITLE!!
Re: Considering Chevy's Current Model Designations Will We See Z28 Again?
Boy this is going to be fun. It will be nice to see the prototype unveiled. Black on black leather for me, loaded Z/28 and any other packages that come with it. This car will be my all-out fun-time daily driver.
I buy all my cars loaded and ready to kill, and I want to be the first to blow away that new Turbo 350Z.
I buy all my cars loaded and ready to kill, and I want to be the first to blow away that new Turbo 350Z.
Re: Considering Chevy's Current Model Designations Will We See Z28 Again?
Originally Posted by stars1010
I'm sorry, I came off rude, I'm tired.
Re: Considering Chevy's Current Model Designations Will We See Z28 Again?
Originally Posted by Red Planet
what colors????
Interior trim???
Interior trim???
Eletron Blue or equivalent with Silver stripes, Chrome wheels w/red calipers.
Black Leather seats w/Red inserts and red stitching on seats, steering wheel, shifter/boot, & brake handle.
How about a Factory Pick-Up Option like the Corvette in Bowling Green?
Well actually its museum pick-up option, but close enough.
2nd choice for exterior color would be Daytona Sunset Orange.
Re: Considering Chevy's Current Model Designations Will We See Z28 Again?
Most Camaro enthusiasts want the Z28 (or Z/28
) to return to greatness, they want the name to mean something again. Z28 is Camaro, SS is everything. Z28 was complete performance, SS was straight line and had a range of low-high powered engines/options. (not talking half of the 4th Gen here)
I will say, that I REALLY hope that MANY of us here and on other boards did not constantly discuss, argue, lobby, present facts, opinions, make shirts, emblems, express feeling, make sigs, etc., for no reason all this time. When is the last time a designation or something like that was lobbied for in such a way? Was the SS stuck up for like this? Not in the slightest, and many SS supporters turned around once they understood both models better. I liken it to RP constantly convincing people inside GM for years to get a new Camaro, so I would hope he knows how it feels to want to be heard and answered in a really impressive and exciting way.
) to return to greatness, they want the name to mean something again. Z28 is Camaro, SS is everything. Z28 was complete performance, SS was straight line and had a range of low-high powered engines/options. (not talking half of the 4th Gen here)
I will say, that I REALLY hope that MANY of us here and on other boards did not constantly discuss, argue, lobby, present facts, opinions, make shirts, emblems, express feeling, make sigs, etc., for no reason all this time. When is the last time a designation or something like that was lobbied for in such a way? Was the SS stuck up for like this? Not in the slightest, and many SS supporters turned around once they understood both models better. I liken it to RP constantly convincing people inside GM for years to get a new Camaro, so I would hope he knows how it feels to want to be heard and answered in a really impressive and exciting way.
Last edited by IZ28; Nov 30, 2005 at 11:41 PM.
Re: Considering Chevy's Current Model Designations Will We See Z28 Again?
Originally Posted by 30thZ286speed
Eletron Blue or equivalent with Silver stripes, Chrome wheels w/red calipers.
Black Leather seats w/Red inserts and red stitching on seats, steering wheel, shifter/boot, & brake handle.
How about a Factory Pick-Up Option like the Corvette in Bowling Green?
Well actually its museum pick-up option, but close enough.
2nd choice for exterior color would be Daytona Sunset Orange.
Black Leather seats w/Red inserts and red stitching on seats, steering wheel, shifter/boot, & brake handle.
How about a Factory Pick-Up Option like the Corvette in Bowling Green?
Well actually its museum pick-up option, but close enough.
2nd choice for exterior color would be Daytona Sunset Orange.
Do you really want to go to Canada to get the car tho? Anywhere in the US, OK, I don't know about crossing the border. I can't explain why I feel that way, I guess that's where I draw the line.


