Considering Chevy's Current Model Designations Will We See Z28 Again?
11-29-2005, 07:01 PM
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Re: Considering Chevy's Current Model Designations Will We See Z28 Again?
Originally Posted by stangitr
The RS was the base V8 Camaro.
The base Camaro was the plain Jane 327-210 HP, which could be had with either a 3-spd, 4-spd or 2-spd Auto. Gee, that sounds familiar...
11-29-2005, 07:45 PM
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Re: Considering Chevy's Current Model Designations Will We See Z28 Again?
Originally Posted by km9v
They should keep it simple, a base V6 & Z28 V8.
11-29-2005, 08:30 PM
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Re: Considering Chevy's Current Model Designations Will We See Z28 Again?
Originally Posted by stangitr
the only time the SS has been better than the Z28 was the 4th gen
11-29-2005, 10:10 PM
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Re: Considering Chevy's Current Model Designations Will We See Z28 Again?
Originally Posted by stangitr
Super Sport was never the top pure performance package in first gen Camaros, that's Z28. SS started out more as a luxury package with a little straight line performance. When the Z/28 option package first came about, you could only order it with a base model Camaro, then you got the 4 speed, 302, disc brakes, and suspension. The Z/28 was originally about pure performance, the SS was a mixture. Just because the SS could come with a big block doesn't mean it was a better performance car.
uhmmmm.......no.
(I'll get back to this later....kinda busy right now......your thesis is kinda right, but more wrong than right)
11-29-2005, 10:16 PM
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Re: Considering Chevy's Current Model Designations Will We See Z28 Again?
Originally Posted by jg95z28
Close. Super Sport has always meant the top of the line trim package for each Chevy model line in terms of performance and luxury. RPO-Z28 was created so Chevrolet could go road racing.
So which is the “Top Dog” Camaro? It’s not a simple answer actually.
If GM is going to bring the Camaro back and with it the Z28, there are several here that say the new Z28 must be a road racing based version much like the Corvette Z06, including down to the Z06 LS7 power plant. This is what the Z28 was originally, a racecar thinly disguised for the street. I fall into that camp. I want a no nonsense brute of a Camaro for a weekend toy on the street and at the track. It has to be the best handling coupe in the marketplace with enough horsepower and torque to back it up. In all honesty, the 4th gen Z28 was just too vanilla to carry the Z28 name honorably.
However, if the new Z28 is going to just be a sticker package over the SS model, then what is the point? If that is to be the case, then they might as well just kill the name and have only the SS to which buyers can modify on their own to create the car GM should’ve built in the first place.
I however am an optimist and fully expect to see a Z28 within 18-24 months of the Camaro’s reintroduction. I just hope that we learn if the Z28 is a go or no-go shortly thereafter, otherwise I may not be able to wait.
So which is the “Top Dog” Camaro? It’s not a simple answer actually.
If GM is going to bring the Camaro back and with it the Z28, there are several here that say the new Z28 must be a road racing based version much like the Corvette Z06, including down to the Z06 LS7 power plant. This is what the Z28 was originally, a racecar thinly disguised for the street. I fall into that camp. I want a no nonsense brute of a Camaro for a weekend toy on the street and at the track. It has to be the best handling coupe in the marketplace with enough horsepower and torque to back it up. In all honesty, the 4th gen Z28 was just too vanilla to carry the Z28 name honorably.
However, if the new Z28 is going to just be a sticker package over the SS model, then what is the point? If that is to be the case, then they might as well just kill the name and have only the SS to which buyers can modify on their own to create the car GM should’ve built in the first place.
I however am an optimist and fully expect to see a Z28 within 18-24 months of the Camaro’s reintroduction. I just hope that we learn if the Z28 is a go or no-go shortly thereafter, otherwise I may not be able to wait.
very good points...you've got the gist of it......the first line....the emphasis is on performance, not luxury. Remember that the early SS could be had with the standard interior or the custom interior.
11-29-2005, 10:18 PM
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Re: Considering Chevy's Current Model Designations Will We See Z28 Again?
Originally Posted by Red Planet
uhmmmm.......no.
(I'll get back to this later....kinda busy right now......your thesis is kinda right, but more wrong than right)
(I'll get back to this later....kinda busy right now......your thesis is kinda right, but more wrong than right)
i'll take a crack at what he was trying to say, stop me if i'm wrong........
what stangitr was getting at was RPOZ28 only came into existence to homologate it for SCCA Trans-Am competition, while SS was an engine/option package that most Chevy models recieved in the late 60s. RPOZ28 WAS a race car in street trim, while SS WAS a street car in race trim, more-so the big-block equipped models.
11-29-2005, 10:19 PM
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Re: Considering Chevy's Current Model Designations Will We See Z28 Again?
Originally Posted by jg95z28
In all honesty, the 4th gen Z28 was just too vanilla to carry the Z28 name honorably.
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11-29-2005, 10:22 PM
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Re: Considering Chevy's Current Model Designations Will We See Z28 Again?
I hope for a Z/28 option because of the heritage and personal memories of all the Z's I had.Either way its a good thing to see this buzz and excitement over a car that might not be released for several years[hurts to say that].
11-29-2005, 10:22 PM
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Re: Considering Chevy's Current Model Designations Will We See Z28 Again?
Originally Posted by stangitr
The RS was the base V8 Camaro.
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nope. You could order the RS package on a 6 cylinder....a V8 coupe....an SS...and a Z28..........RS was not the base V8 Camaro.
11-29-2005, 10:24 PM
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Re: Considering Chevy's Current Model Designations Will We See Z28 Again?
Originally Posted by jg95z28
The RS was not the base V8 Camaro. The RS was also available with a L6.
The base Camaro was the plain Jane 327-210 HP, which could be had with either a 3-spd, 4-spd or 2-spd Auto. Gee, that sounds familiar...
The base Camaro was the plain Jane 327-210 HP, which could be had with either a 3-spd, 4-spd or 2-spd Auto. Gee, that sounds familiar...
actually, the base Camaro in 1967 was an inline 230ci 6 cylinder.......with 250 ci as optional or a V8...............
11-29-2005, 10:27 PM
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Re: Considering Chevy's Current Model Designations Will We See Z28 Again?
to address Stangitr's comment.
The SS WAS the top Camaro in 1967.......in terms of overall performance and cubic inches.............then the Z28 came along. (I have the internal memos to prove it.......)
The SS was never meant as a luxury package.
The SS WAS the top Camaro in 1967.......in terms of overall performance and cubic inches.............then the Z28 came along. (I have the internal memos to prove it.......)
The SS was never meant as a luxury package.
11-29-2005, 10:34 PM
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Re: Considering Chevy's Current Model Designations Will We See Z28 Again?
Originally Posted by Red Planet
to address Stangitr's comment.
The SS WAS the top Camaro in 1967.......in terms of overall performance and cubic inches.............then the Z28 came along. (I have the internal memos to prove it.......)
The SS was never meant as a luxury package.
The SS WAS the top Camaro in 1967.......in terms of overall performance and cubic inches.............then the Z28 came along. (I have the internal memos to prove it.......)
The SS was never meant as a luxury package.
i hope history repeats itself.