Frontal shot of new Camaro......
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I agree with Doug regarding the A pillar. That combined with the reduced side glass makes the greenhouse look more bulky and less slick. The quad HID's get a thumbs down from me. I know you need quad HID's to get hi-beams but it really reduces the menacing look. Watch the Transformer movie again when Bumblebee first turns into the 5th gen and pulls up - the headlights make all the difference.
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You are correct and we now know who has been paying attention here...
They will not be duel they will not be what is pictured and the ones on the mule are just driving lights from a parts store as Scott said were velcroed and hot glued in to make the cars driveable at night.
Scott said parts were missing and by parts he ment emblems trim and HEADLIGHTS.
At this point I am sure they are getting the final changes and needed approval and test done. Why bolt in what is not complete?
They have to be DOT approved, durablility tested, tooled for production, designed to meet cost, performance tested, and god knows what else GM has to do before they are ready. these were not off the self items and have many different criteira to meet.
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Here's the door action of one:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jvxUWYKA3_Y
And a video switching between beams:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=19C1u...eature=related
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No you dont. All you need is a bi-xenon projector. It has a little door that can move and provide low or high beams from a single unit.
Here's the door action of one:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jvxUWYKA3_Y
And a video switching between beams:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=19C1u...eature=related
Here's the door action of one:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jvxUWYKA3_Y
And a video switching between beams:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=19C1u...eature=related
Last edited by Hylton; Jan 23, 2008 at 09:26 PM.
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Well, for me...I've been looking at the pics and thanks guys for the comparison posts...The mule is so damn close....but it seems taller or top heavy, not sleak or mean damn close but something is missing...trying to figure it out.
I still like the concept better, maybe it's the wheels, it looks alot meaner and alot sleaker. I like the grill better on the mule, but that's about it. I know that it's not a production model but.....When I hit a show room with a new camaro in it and I don't pitch a tent like I did when I saw the concept, I'll put the money towards my 3rd gen and leave it at that.
I have faith that GM will not let us down....I really liked the gas cap on top of the fender..to me, that was one of the most coolest things I've seen in a long time......that gas cap looked awesome too...shame if it doesn't make production.
I still like the concept better, maybe it's the wheels, it looks alot meaner and alot sleaker. I like the grill better on the mule, but that's about it. I know that it's not a production model but.....When I hit a show room with a new camaro in it and I don't pitch a tent like I did when I saw the concept, I'll put the money towards my 3rd gen and leave it at that.
I have faith that GM will not let us down....I really liked the gas cap on top of the fender..to me, that was one of the most coolest things I've seen in a long time......that gas cap looked awesome too...shame if it doesn't make production.
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I don't know if the car is taller or not, but it needs to have a larger greenhouse than the concept, or at least a lower seat.
If you saw Bob Lutz and Road and Track's Thomas A. Bryant in the car, there was a serious lack of headroom.
If you saw Bob Lutz and Road and Track's Thomas A. Bryant in the car, there was a serious lack of headroom.
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Setting up quads on a dual car is more trouble than it's worth if it's "just for testing". Especially when they are HID's. The primary lights have also been set back from the highbeams which tells me quads are being considered. GM does this all the time with other cars you see a year out of production don't they? NOT!!!!
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Duh - I think we've heard that enough already but thank you! You and others just don't get it - think a bit harder.
Setting up quads on a dual car is more trouble than it's worth if it's "just for testing". Especially when they are HID's. The primary lights have also been set back from the highbeams which tells me quads are being considered. GM does this all the time with other cars you see a year out of production don't they? NOT!!!!
Setting up quads on a dual car is more trouble than it's worth if it's "just for testing". Especially when they are HID's. The primary lights have also been set back from the highbeams which tells me quads are being considered. GM does this all the time with other cars you see a year out of production don't they? NOT!!!!
...how long does it take to hot glue fog lights to cardboard and spray paint it??? 
I don't need to think harder... I've been paying attention
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Duh - I think we've heard that enough already but thank you! You and others just don't get it - think a bit harder.
Setting up quads on a dual car is more trouble than it's worth if it's "just for testing". Especially when they are HID's. The primary lights have also been set back from the highbeams which tells me quads are being considered. GM does this all the time with other cars you see a year out of production don't they? NOT!!!!
Setting up quads on a dual car is more trouble than it's worth if it's "just for testing". Especially when they are HID's. The primary lights have also been set back from the highbeams which tells me quads are being considered. GM does this all the time with other cars you see a year out of production don't they? NOT!!!!
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Duh - I think we've heard that enough already but thank you! You and others just don't get it - think a bit harder.
Setting up quads on a dual car is more trouble than it's worth if it's "just for testing". Especially when they are HID's. The primary lights have also been set back from the highbeams which tells me quads are being considered. GM does this all the time with other cars you see a year out of production don't they? NOT!!!!
Setting up quads on a dual car is more trouble than it's worth if it's "just for testing". Especially when they are HID's. The primary lights have also been set back from the highbeams which tells me quads are being considered. GM does this all the time with other cars you see a year out of production don't they? NOT!!!!
If youd notice , almost all the more recent mules and pre-production cars including the latest CTS has had these very same lights mounted in place of the production lamps .