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Old Jan 20, 2008 | 09:00 AM
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Beautiful Job!

Ok, I've patiently read though 16 pages of thread, 12 of which discuss headlights and I still go back to Scott's first post " parts are missing, wink" and no one has mentioned 1 compound word and a 2 lettered formerly compatible 1969 Z/28 option:

HIDEAWAYS, RS

Anyone up for a the photoshop challenge??

Any insight to it being available or a viable combination?
Old Jan 20, 2008 | 03:21 PM
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Originally Posted by 68 RS/SS Ragtop
HIDEAWAYS,
unlikely partly due to safety standards

Originally Posted by 68 RS/SS Ragtop
RS
possibly. Keep in mind RS is an appearance package nothing to do with performance. It is possible we will get an RS/SS but again unlikely with hideaways.
Old Jan 20, 2008 | 06:07 PM
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Originally Posted by 68 RS/SS Ragtop
Beautiful Job!

Ok, I've patiently read though 16 pages of thread, 12 of which discuss headlights and I still go back to Scott's first post " parts are missing, wink" and no one has mentioned 1 compound word and a 2 lettered formerly compatible 1969 Z/28 option:

HIDEAWAYS, RS

Anyone up for a the photoshop challenge??

Any insight to it being available or a viable combination?
Parts are missing as in the production headlight assembly ....as compared to the hot glue velcro job of cheapie lights in the picture . The turn signals are incorporated into the headlight assembly= no headlamp doors .
Old Jan 20, 2008 | 06:18 PM
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Originally Posted by 5thgen69camaro
unlikely partly due to safety standards



possibly. Keep in mind RS is an appearance package nothing to do with performance. It is possible we will get an RS/SS but again unlikely with hideaways.

By safety do you mean daylight running lights? Do the headlights have to be the daytime running lights? What about the lights in the lower valence being the daylight lights? Pop up's (Ala Corvette ) were good through 2004 and a similar concept to hideways. I'm only in the country a few months at a time the last few years, is there something I've missed, is it no longer legal to produce pop-ups or hideaways? I know there's been a trend to enclose headlamps under clear exterior covers, but has that been mandated?
Old Jan 20, 2008 | 06:37 PM
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Parts are missing as in the production headlight assembly ....as compared to the hot glue velcro job of cheapie lights in the picture . The turn signals are incorporated into the headlight assembly= no headlamp doors .
Sometimes different options require different grilles and valences, on 1st gens the turn signal in the grille of the base model was moved to the lower valence and the hideaways were added. It required different fenders, headlamp assemblies, grille and lower valance. Z06 has a different hood and front facia to separate itself appearance wise from the base model.

I'm just curious if different appearance trims are contemplated for initial delivery/production. I can't imagine every front grille from base to Z to SS being the same because GM can only afford to offer 1 headlamp assembly.
Old Jan 20, 2008 | 10:25 PM
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I'll probably get slapped the next time I walk into a Camaro meeting for posting this -- but I don't want people to be disappointed --

No hideaway headlamps -- for many reasons.

#1. Weight -- (and we all know how many people on this site feel about weight!)

#2. Reliability and fit/finish. (did you ever see a headlamp door remain in alignment on the 1st gens???)

#3. Export purposes..........

.......plus a host of other reasons.

Notice I'm not saying that grilles may not be different --

(dang -- there goes that 'winkie' thing again!)
Old Jan 20, 2008 | 10:27 PM
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Now-- with that said........the aftermarket is very creative -- and I suspect that one (or more) industrious souls will figure out how to do a hideaway headlight treatment (in addition to several aftermarket grilles) -- and that's a great thing!

I'm always amazed, for instance, to walk thru a showfield -- and look at, say, a half dozen or more Black SSs -- they all looked pretty much the same when they came off the line at Ste. Therese -- but a couple of years later and they all have been 'personalized' -- and each has its own unique appearance......
Old Jan 20, 2008 | 10:46 PM
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Are they paying as much attention to the detail on the production model as they did on the concept? Every aspect of the concept seemed to be flawless. Even the seatbelts looked great. I'm just wondering if they "cut" any corners. I know it has to be changed for pricing reasons, but is there going to be a model that is almost identical to the convertible concept? That is the one that has my attention.
Old Jan 20, 2008 | 10:54 PM
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Originally Posted by Fbodfather
Notice I'm not saying that grilles may not be different --

(dang -- there goes that 'winkie' thing again!)


That's an interesting tidbit. Thanks Scott.
Old Jan 20, 2008 | 11:17 PM
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Originally Posted by CCoop8830
Are they paying as much attention to the detail on the production model as they did on the concept? Every aspect of the concept seemed to be flawless. Even the seatbelts looked great. I'm just wondering if they "cut" any corners. I know it has to be changed for pricing reasons, but is there going to be a model that is almost identical to the convertible concept? That is the one that has my attention.

I think people would be amazed at how everyone is 'sweating the details' --for instance -- I posted a picture of a portion of the team 'listening' thru headphones -- all to work on 'tuning' the exhaust of the V8 engine.

The concept wasn't flawless -- but on the other hand, the concept had incredibly expensive materials -- such as billet aluminum parts -- and we must keep in mind that the new Camaro MUST come in at a "Chevy" price..........

I think, all in all, you will be pleased.
Old Jan 21, 2008 | 12:09 AM
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Originally Posted by Fbodfather
I think people would be amazed at how everyone is 'sweating the details' --for instance -- I posted a picture of a portion of the team 'listening' thru headphones -- all to work on 'tuning' the exhaust of the V8 engine.

The concept wasn't flawless -- but on the other hand, the concept had incredibly expensive materials -- such as billet aluminum parts -- and we must keep in mind that the new Camaro MUST come in at a "Chevy" price..........

I think, all in all, you will be pleased.
Well thats good to hear...Sounds like a potentially messy job for when they get it right. The concept appeared to be about as nice of an interior as possible. Now swap out all the billet parts and add plastic for the price. I have noticed that GM recently has seem to be on top of their game. I worked at a Ford/Mitsu/GMC/Buick/Pontiac dealer. Lot of cars to deal with. They were very nice even down to the G5. I have faith that the parts being used won't let me down.
Old Jan 21, 2008 | 12:30 AM
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Red, quick question. Maybe it is the lighting, but is the fender flare smaller on the white car pictured than on the Concepts?

I really liked the amount on the Concepts (a lot).
Old Jan 21, 2008 | 01:25 AM
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Wow that looks stunning! I dont mind the lights to much but they don't go with the car. Was that a sunroof I saw in the rear pic? And the new grille is much better.

And as others mentions, hopefully it will not have that ridiculous wwf championship belt size bowtie in the front. It would just look silly. In those new malibu commercials the car looks decent until they zoom in on the nice grey car with chome accents, and then BAM! That ugly huge wrong color logo right in front.

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Old Jan 21, 2008 | 03:45 AM
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ugh...the grill comments bring to imagination misaligned billet aluminum grills, with the fins bent and some chevy bowtie with chrome flames coming off of it...
Old Jan 21, 2008 | 04:44 AM
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I'm so glad that there will be other grills over the one on the concept, disliked it so much heheh.

BTW there FBF, I think the only way to correctly tune that V8 exhuast is to put a real SBC in it! (not happening I know) I hope you guys found a way to fix up the LS sound some, though I doubt it. I recall alot of detail going into the GTO exhaust and it was not impressive, as is the new ZR1's 625HP LS aquatic bubblefest. On top of it the single outlet GTO's sounded better than the true dual cars for some reason.

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