Frontal shot of new Camaro......
Beautiful Job!
Ok, I've patiently read though 16 pages of thread, 12 of which discuss headlights and I still go back to Scott's first post " parts are missing, wink" and no one has mentioned 1 compound word and a 2 lettered formerly compatible 1969 Z/28 option:
HIDEAWAYS, RS
Anyone up for a the photoshop challenge??
Any insight to it being available or a viable combination?

Ok, I've patiently read though 16 pages of thread, 12 of which discuss headlights and I still go back to Scott's first post " parts are missing, wink" and no one has mentioned 1 compound word and a 2 lettered formerly compatible 1969 Z/28 option:
HIDEAWAYS, RS
Anyone up for a the photoshop challenge??
Any insight to it being available or a viable combination?
Beautiful Job!
Ok, I've patiently read though 16 pages of thread, 12 of which discuss headlights and I still go back to Scott's first post " parts are missing, wink" and no one has mentioned 1 compound word and a 2 lettered formerly compatible 1969 Z/28 option:
HIDEAWAYS, RS
Anyone up for a the photoshop challenge??
Any insight to it being available or a viable combination?

Ok, I've patiently read though 16 pages of thread, 12 of which discuss headlights and I still go back to Scott's first post " parts are missing, wink" and no one has mentioned 1 compound word and a 2 lettered formerly compatible 1969 Z/28 option:
HIDEAWAYS, RS
Anyone up for a the photoshop challenge??
Any insight to it being available or a viable combination?
....as compared to the hot glue velcro job of cheapie lights in the picture . The turn signals are incorporated into the headlight assembly= no headlamp doors .
By safety do you mean daylight running lights? Do the headlights have to be the daytime running lights? What about the lights in the lower valence being the daylight lights? Pop up's (Ala Corvette ) were good through 2004 and a similar concept to hideways. I'm only in the country a few months at a time the last few years, is there something I've missed, is it no longer legal to produce pop-ups or hideaways? I know there's been a trend to enclose headlamps under clear exterior covers, but has that been mandated?
I'm just curious if different appearance trims are contemplated for initial delivery/production. I can't imagine every front grille from base to Z to SS being the same because GM can only afford to offer 1 headlamp assembly.
I'll probably get slapped the next time I walk into a Camaro meeting for posting this -- but I don't want people to be disappointed --
No hideaway headlamps -- for many reasons.
#1. Weight -- (and we all know how many people on this site feel about weight!)
#2. Reliability and fit/finish. (did you ever see a headlamp door remain in alignment on the 1st gens???)
#3. Export purposes..........
.......plus a host of other reasons.
Notice I'm not saying that grilles may not be different --
(dang -- there goes that 'winkie' thing again!)
No hideaway headlamps -- for many reasons.
#1. Weight -- (and we all know how many people on this site feel about weight!)
#2. Reliability and fit/finish. (did you ever see a headlamp door remain in alignment on the 1st gens???)
#3. Export purposes..........
.......plus a host of other reasons.
Notice I'm not saying that grilles may not be different --

(dang -- there goes that 'winkie' thing again!)
Now-- with that said........the aftermarket is very creative -- and I suspect that one (or more) industrious souls will figure out how to do a hideaway headlight treatment (in addition to several aftermarket grilles) -- and that's a great thing!
I'm always amazed, for instance, to walk thru a showfield -- and look at, say, a half dozen or more Black SSs -- they all looked pretty much the same when they came off the line at Ste. Therese -- but a couple of years later and they all have been 'personalized' -- and each has its own unique appearance......
I'm always amazed, for instance, to walk thru a showfield -- and look at, say, a half dozen or more Black SSs -- they all looked pretty much the same when they came off the line at Ste. Therese -- but a couple of years later and they all have been 'personalized' -- and each has its own unique appearance......
Are they paying as much attention to the detail on the production model as they did on the concept? Every aspect of the concept seemed to be flawless. Even the seatbelts looked great. I'm just wondering if they "cut" any corners. I know it has to be changed for pricing reasons, but is there going to be a model that is almost identical to the convertible concept? That is the one that has my attention.
Are they paying as much attention to the detail on the production model as they did on the concept? Every aspect of the concept seemed to be flawless. Even the seatbelts looked great. I'm just wondering if they "cut" any corners. I know it has to be changed for pricing reasons, but is there going to be a model that is almost identical to the convertible concept? That is the one that has my attention.
I think people would be amazed at how everyone is 'sweating the details' --for instance -- I posted a picture of a portion of the team 'listening' thru headphones -- all to work on 'tuning' the exhaust of the V8 engine.
The concept wasn't flawless -- but on the other hand, the concept had incredibly expensive materials -- such as billet aluminum parts -- and we must keep in mind that the new Camaro MUST come in at a "Chevy" price..........
I think, all in all, you will be pleased.
I think people would be amazed at how everyone is 'sweating the details' --for instance -- I posted a picture of a portion of the team 'listening' thru headphones -- all to work on 'tuning' the exhaust of the V8 engine.
The concept wasn't flawless -- but on the other hand, the concept had incredibly expensive materials -- such as billet aluminum parts -- and we must keep in mind that the new Camaro MUST come in at a "Chevy" price..........
I think, all in all, you will be pleased.
The concept wasn't flawless -- but on the other hand, the concept had incredibly expensive materials -- such as billet aluminum parts -- and we must keep in mind that the new Camaro MUST come in at a "Chevy" price..........
I think, all in all, you will be pleased.
...Sounds like a potentially messy job for when they get it right. The concept appeared to be about as nice of an interior as possible. Now swap out all the billet parts and add plastic for the price. I have noticed that GM recently has seem to be on top of their game. I worked at a Ford/Mitsu/GMC/Buick/Pontiac dealer. Lot of cars to deal with. They were very nice even down to the G5. I have faith that the parts being used won't let me down.
Wow that looks stunning! I dont mind the lights to much but they don't go with the car. Was that a sunroof I saw in the rear pic? And the new grille is much better.
And as others mentions, hopefully it will not have that ridiculous wwf championship belt size bowtie in the front. It would just look silly. In those new malibu commercials the car looks decent until they zoom in on the nice grey car with chome accents, and then BAM! That ugly huge wrong color logo right in front.
And as others mentions, hopefully it will not have that ridiculous wwf championship belt size bowtie in the front. It would just look silly. In those new malibu commercials the car looks decent until they zoom in on the nice grey car with chome accents, and then BAM! That ugly huge wrong color logo right in front.
Last edited by Megalis; Jan 21, 2008 at 01:34 AM.
I'm so glad that there will be other grills over the one on the concept, disliked it so much heheh.
BTW there FBF, I think the only way to correctly tune that V8 exhuast is to put a real SBC in it! (not happening I know) I hope you guys found a way to fix up the LS sound some, though I doubt it. I recall alot of detail going into the GTO exhaust and it was not impressive, as is the new ZR1's 625HP LS aquatic bubblefest.
On top of it the single outlet GTO's sounded better than the true dual cars for some reason.
BTW there FBF, I think the only way to correctly tune that V8 exhuast is to put a real SBC in it! (not happening I know) I hope you guys found a way to fix up the LS sound some, though I doubt it. I recall alot of detail going into the GTO exhaust and it was not impressive, as is the new ZR1's 625HP LS aquatic bubblefest.
On top of it the single outlet GTO's sounded better than the true dual cars for some reason.
Last edited by IZ28; Jan 21, 2008 at 04:49 AM.


