Whats this I hear about aftermarket oil pumps sucking?

LTOne4Fun
01-15-2003, 12:05 AM
Seen a couple of posts about them sucking the pan dry and other horror stories killing new motors. Hows this so? High pressure or high volume versions?

Everyone seems to be recommending a stock pump with a GMPP white springs. Why that over a high pressure pump (IM guessing its the high volume that sucks them dry)

89ProchargedROC
01-15-2003, 02:37 AM
Originally posted by LTOne4Fun
Seen a couple of posts about them sucking the pan dry and other horror stories killing new motors. Hows this so? High pressure or high volume versions?



if you use a high volume pump with a stock capacity pan it *can* possibly pump too much oil up to the valvetrain and not keep enough oil in the sump for the bottom end. The solution is to buy a pan with more quart capacity. I had to do this

Injuneer
01-15-2003, 08:22 AM
Originally posted by LTOne4Fun
Seen a couple of posts about them sucking the pan dry and other horror stories killing new motors. Hows this so? High pressure or high volume versions?

Everyone seems to be recommending a stock pump with a GMPP white springs. Why that over a high pressure pump (IM guessing its the high volume that sucks them dry)

Some confusion in your post. If you add a higher pressure spring to a stock pump, you have in effect created a "high pressure pump". A high pressure pump is not a high volume pump. They are two different things. The only way you can increase the volume pumped at any given RPM is to increase the body size of the pump.

LTOne4Fun
01-15-2003, 09:14 AM
I understadn that, but peopel werent specific when they said "my melling pump caused my motor to blow up, Id say get a stocker with whitesprings". Now, i will be running a stock pan, I could prolly weld in soem baffling, but assuming i dont, would a Melling Hihg Pressure (not volume) be ok wiht it? Is therre any reason why I shoudl choose a stock GM with white springs over one of those?

Injuneer
01-15-2003, 08:24 PM
Some of the wildest 1/4-mile LT1's that I'm familiar with use(d) the stock pan with windage tray, and stock pump with a high pressure spring, including George Baxter's 1,125HP monster....... That combo has also worked for me, although I'm a little shy on the HP department, making about 30% less that he had.......

I figure if it works and its cheap, why change it..... :D

Cammin1
01-15-2003, 09:42 PM
I"m spectical too, I think most of these stories came from being a quart or 2 low to begain with.

LTOne4Fun
01-15-2003, 10:30 PM
do lt1 comes with a windage tray? if not what oen are you all using

96z
01-15-2003, 11:31 PM
LT1's do come with a windage tray....atleast my 96 did. Its just a flat piece of metal. SStrokerAce and I have been thinking about an aftermarket one for my motor so Ill be interested to see if people like them or not...