dyno'd the setup today..
dyno'd the setup today..
well with everything ive done, i jumped at the chance to dyno. granted it was a wideband 02 dyno, it however was setup as an inertia (like a dynojet) and not a load(mustang)...so..i think my numbers work with my old ones. anyway, found out my car is running rich, with a 12.92 A/F ratio at the peaks listed below..
anyway, here goes:
full exhaust w/mufflers, cutout closed:
166.9 hp @ 4800 rpm
203.9 tq @ 4051 rpm (i raised the tq peak.hrm..)
then i asked them to take the cutout off and run it.
cutout open: (using full piping but eliminated muffler)
170 hp @ 4820 rpm
207 tq @ 3529 rpm (got the lower peak rpm back!)
hrm...guess a cutout, no cat, and 3" catbacks do work on 3.4L cars..or maybe its just cause i have higher flowing heads and headers. o well, whatever, im happy with it for now..just gotta throw a cam in there now and see what that does.. and then port/polish the heads, and see how much hp/tq that adds too
im hoping by the time im done of having 250 + hp N/A and 260+ tq N/A but well see

edit - o yea, for all you wondering, if you add back the "losses" (supposedly 15% loss) -- that equates to:
(with the cutout open)
200 hp / 244 tq :-D
(but thats estimated at the crank, i couldnt be certain without putting the motor on an engine dyno)
-R
anyway, here goes:
full exhaust w/mufflers, cutout closed:
166.9 hp @ 4800 rpm
203.9 tq @ 4051 rpm (i raised the tq peak.hrm..)
then i asked them to take the cutout off and run it.
cutout open: (using full piping but eliminated muffler)
170 hp @ 4820 rpm
207 tq @ 3529 rpm (got the lower peak rpm back!)
hrm...guess a cutout, no cat, and 3" catbacks do work on 3.4L cars..or maybe its just cause i have higher flowing heads and headers. o well, whatever, im happy with it for now..just gotta throw a cam in there now and see what that does.. and then port/polish the heads, and see how much hp/tq that adds too
im hoping by the time im done of having 250 + hp N/A and 260+ tq N/A but well see 
edit - o yea, for all you wondering, if you add back the "losses" (supposedly 15% loss) -- that equates to:
(with the cutout open)
200 hp / 244 tq :-D
(but thats estimated at the crank, i couldnt be certain without putting the motor on an engine dyno)
-R
Last edited by 94Camaro; Mar 31, 2003 at 01:14 AM.
heheh
thanks ppl.
something else i just realized...:
while everyone that has been talking to me and looking at this views it as a performance upgrade, keep in mind that everything i have done is STOCK.
engine data for 3.4 hybrid:
bore: 3.623
stroke: 3.31
pistons: cast aluminum pistons for LA1 3.4L("3400") transverse mounted engine
intake: stock 1996 "3100" - cast aluminum, non-ported, non gasket-matched. (considered more restrictive than the 3400 intake)
injectors: 19#/hr GM injectors (stock on the 3100/3400 engines)
basically all i have done is create a very...restrictive 3400 engine (close to the LA1) -- save the roller cam in the transverse engine...
so with that in mind. imagine what i might be able to get if i actually ported/polished the heads, got the 3400 intake (its the higher flowing one), or gasketmatched anything... im sooo looking forward to doing some performance stuff now heheh
ill keep y'all posted :-p
-R
something else i just realized...:
while everyone that has been talking to me and looking at this views it as a performance upgrade, keep in mind that everything i have done is STOCK.
engine data for 3.4 hybrid:
bore: 3.623
stroke: 3.31
pistons: cast aluminum pistons for LA1 3.4L("3400") transverse mounted engine
intake: stock 1996 "3100" - cast aluminum, non-ported, non gasket-matched. (considered more restrictive than the 3400 intake)
injectors: 19#/hr GM injectors (stock on the 3100/3400 engines)
basically all i have done is create a very...restrictive 3400 engine (close to the LA1) -- save the roller cam in the transverse engine...
so with that in mind. imagine what i might be able to get if i actually ported/polished the heads, got the 3400 intake (its the higher flowing one), or gasketmatched anything... im sooo looking forward to doing some performance stuff now heheh
ill keep y'all posted :-p
-R
Re: heheh
Originally posted by 94Camaro
so with that in mind. imagine what i might be able to get if i actually ported/polished the heads, got the 3400 intake (its the higher flowing one), or gasketmatched anything... im sooo looking forward to doing some performance stuff now heheh
so with that in mind. imagine what i might be able to get if i actually ported/polished the heads, got the 3400 intake (its the higher flowing one), or gasketmatched anything... im sooo looking forward to doing some performance stuff now heheh
A lot of people around my parts are just purchasing v-6 rear wheel drive cars (i.e. mustang and camaro) and replacing the engines with v-8's just to beat the insurance. Engine supports, k member and some suspension stiffining is all that is required...
that would bring up your hp a bit!.....
that would bring up your hp a bit!.....
Originally posted by CAJUN-Z
A lot of people around my parts are just purchasing v-6 rear wheel drive cars (i.e. mustang and camaro) and replacing the engines with v-8's just to beat the insurance. Engine supports, k member and some suspension stiffining is all that is required...
that would bring up your hp a bit!.....
A lot of people around my parts are just purchasing v-6 rear wheel drive cars (i.e. mustang and camaro) and replacing the engines with v-8's just to beat the insurance. Engine supports, k member and some suspension stiffining is all that is required...
that would bring up your hp a bit!.....
Originally posted by CAJUN-Z
A lot of people around my parts are just purchasing v-6 rear wheel drive cars (i.e. mustang and camaro) and replacing the engines with v-8's just to beat the insurance. Engine supports, k member and some suspension stiffining is all that is required...
that would bring up your hp a bit!.....
A lot of people around my parts are just purchasing v-6 rear wheel drive cars (i.e. mustang and camaro) and replacing the engines with v-8's just to beat the insurance. Engine supports, k member and some suspension stiffining is all that is required...
that would bring up your hp a bit!.....
3400 intake, Camshaft (possible hyd/solid roller), ported/polished heads, bigger TB... and maybe some more. (maybe even a little toss of the juice on there too.. but not too much..just some for fun).
anyway, point being that even tho everyone says a v8 is fun, when my 3.4L v6 is runnin 12's it'll be even better

-R
Last edited by 94Camaro; Apr 1, 2003 at 12:59 PM.
Your AFR is fine if it was 12.92 across the board. Not to lean and not rich. I like NA cars to be in that area. Now if you plan on running a SC/Turbo setup, fatten it up big time to be safe then take away.
Not bad #'s at all though. Your making more power than my fiance's 99 V6 5 speed. I dynoed it Friday night and it made 166 rwhp@5200 and 191 rwtq @ 3500.
Not bad #'s at all though. Your making more power than my fiance's 99 V6 5 speed. I dynoed it Friday night and it made 166 rwhp@5200 and 191 rwtq @ 3500.
i wish that was so...
wasnt 12.94 across. was 12.94 at peak hp. but when the dyno started it was 11.95, then came up a little to 12.02 and then dipped back down to 11.73 ...
when it hit peak tq it was at 12.72 and then 12.94 at peak hp.
(edit: sorry 12.94 not 12.92).
the guys at the dynoshop told me i was running way rich and that i needed to tune it. of course..i still havent replaced my !Cat (no money rite now to do so.).
so thats probably contributing to it.
-R
when it hit peak tq it was at 12.72 and then 12.94 at peak hp.
(edit: sorry 12.94 not 12.92).
the guys at the dynoshop told me i was running way rich and that i needed to tune it. of course..i still havent replaced my !Cat (no money rite now to do so.).
so thats probably contributing to it.
-R
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