If I get the Loudmouth, which the sites I'm looking at say was made for the 98-02 LSW, I'd need the LT1 adapter kit and then a little extra work done to it right?

I'm currently leaning towards the Loudmouth.. I just looked at the Corsa, B&B, Borla, and Loudmouth.. I like the sound of the Borla best and then the Loudmouth.. Can't find a clip of the B&B.. The Borla w/ a kit for the 3.8 is listed at 729.99.. So the Loudmouth just seems like a much better deal at $390 including a kit.. The Corsa was only 70 cheaper than the Borla, and sounded weak in my opinion.. If anyone has a sound clip of the B&B, please let me know since that's the only one I haven't heard. Last question - how much is the performance difference between the Borla and SLP Loudmouth.. (I think they're about the same but want confirmation...)

I'm going to talk to my mechanic in the next couple of days to see if he'll do the work or if he is too busy and wants me to take it to an specialty place..

Thanks to everyone for all your help.. Both with this and back when I was asking about the CAI vs FIPK... Sorry if some of my questions are similar to ones that have been asked a lot, cause I know there are a few threads running about this, just wanted clarification with it all before I sink 300-700 dollars into something.

 

The K&N FIPK is a CAI. It is arguably the best one out there.
Most people agree on this:

SLP looks best looks wise.
K&N FIPK is the best performance wise.

Performance on the CAI's only vary a few hp.

The SLP Loudmouth will out-perform any other cat back hands down. (It doesnt have a muffler)

 

I know the FIPK is a CAI.. by FIPK vs CAI, I was referring to the K&N FIPK vs the SLP CAI... I'm going with the SLP, because the consensus was that they are so close performance-wise that you can't tell a difference; and the SLP CAI looks so much better... I also found the SLP CAI about 10 bucks cheaper.

Good point about it not having a muffler, I never thought of that.. I think I've definately decided to go with the Loudmouth as long as I can find a place not too far away that will install it on my V6.. I like the Borla system a little more, but I can't justify spending almost twice as much...

 

If people have installed these headers...

Why are online companies telling me Pacesetter hasn't released them? And WHY can't I find these things on summitracing? LOL

 

Speaking of headers.. I've heard that RKSport's V6 headers leak? Which leaves only the Pacesetter Headers and the ClearImage Automotive headers (but these say they are only for 98-02).. So is pacesetter the best choice?

Rich, maybe the people who installed them were testing them out for the company or something?

 

I would like to see some actual tests or proof that the K&N outperforms the SLP or vice versa. Until you can prove one does, don't say "K&N is better performance wise". I would also like to see the proof that one produces a "few hp" more than the other.

I can only speak on my first hand experiance...and I've had both. Neither, in my opinion, out did the other. The SLP was cheaper, so I sold the K&N and bought a SLP.

As for looks, its up to each individual.

RKSport headers simply suck...

 

I have seen dyno proof that K&N is better than SLP by a few horsepower. So therefore i can call K&N better!

 

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Care to share? I'd be interested to see the actual proof. I can make up a claim saying I saw a dyno with the SLP better...so therefore I can call SLP better? Without proof, it's an empty claim.

 

i would go with corsa. It sounds mean and aggressive and looks nice and their is a noticibla gain in horsepower

 

I don't have anything to share except for what i told you in the previous post. I am sorry but i cant show you actual proof, i saw it in person.

I am mighty glad that you can make up a claim...that must be a feat ! I don't appreciate the fact that you are basically saying I made up my claim about the dyno.

Lets take a second to think about how jackassed your latest comment was...ok here we go... you make a post telling me basically that I made up that claim (since you know i have nothing better to do but say random **** outta my *** about two CAI that i am not making any money off of promoting), but yet you dont have any proof that I made up that claim now do you?....see what I am getting at? Furthermore i really dont give a rats *** if you don't belive me. If you are that interested go and buy both brand new and go and pay for a dyno.

 

Re-read my post, buddy...

You are right, I have ZERO proof that you made up that claim of the K&N making more power than the SLP. I was simply asking for the proof of evidence to back up your claim...after all, if the K&N does produce more power than the SLP, I'd like to see the actual proof as I'm sure everyone else would. No proof to prove for...no proof to prove against. Can't just go by what people say, yeah?

What I meant with the empty claim is anyone can say whatever they want to prove something but without proof, how valid is it? For example, I can say "Hey, my $100 Flowmaster outflows your $600 Borla...but I don't have proof". Empty claim...

And I never said "CamaroGuy22, you made that stuff up!". I never said I doubted you either...I just asked for proof. It was intriguing since while most disagree which is better, many times they would agree they perform the same. You were the first to name one as actually better and see an actual dyno gain.

Maybe I will go borrow my friend's K&N and do dyno runs on my car with the K&N and SLP. My bet is on zero to non-noticable differences...but eh...who knows.

 

Sorry to go off on you like that, i mis-interperted what you wrote. I took it as you thought i made it up, and i didn't. I will not quote dyno number because I don't know exact numbers but the K&N only out performs the SLP by i think it was 1-2 horses. Its nothing major. I said in my previous post that "Performance on the CAI's only vary a few hp." I never said it was anything worth throwing away your current CAI for and rushing out to get a FIPK.
Most people love the looks of the SLP, i dont really see the need for a shinny piece of metal under my hood...but thats just me lol. As for the dyno testing, i love it when people on this site actually dyno test products...it gives us a real sense whats going on.
I have several questions about actual horsepower gains on certain items...because i am too poor to go out and by both products then pay for a dyno.

Keven