Ok Look, this thread is not even about that.

I STATED THE TIMES THAT I HAVE SEEN DRIVEN NO NEED TO BE A D!CK. Hazmat what are your credentials? I just looked at the link the guy gave me, and replied back what i saw. What makes you so much more of an expert to reply with an assanine comment like that. I posted on this thread to try to help the guy out, and you people sit here and dement this thread to who can bitch the longest about what times they could/should/might/ponder of running.

2nd of all:I never said it was a "16" second car. You guys seriously need to get your heads out of your A$$'s. I love it when you post something and everybody goes well i ran faster than that. Get a life. This goes on in the LT-1 forum all the time...people posting how they got a 13.5 bone stock. Thats really good, i sure am proud of you! You guys loose track of the original purpose of a thread, just to turn this into some dumb argument how you think a bone stock 3.8 would run 15.5 instead of a 15.6. Get over it, and get back on topic.

 

Boys....Boys.....Boys.

If you Boys would like to chat and share info about your times...or how to get your car to be that fast....then fine.

If not.....refrain from hi-jacking this thread....or it will shut down faster than a Top-Fuelie running the 1/4

Be Good!

 

LOl, CamaroGuy, no need to get an attitude youngster. We're just trying to open your mind up.

 

No

This is what happend..... you saw my original post that i was trying to help the guy with a question and how i gave him an estimate about how fast 3.8's run, and you got offended because you think a stock 3.8 can run faster than what i quoted. I think the person with the close mind is you...not me. Seriously, you are arguing over something dumb, you didnt need to start acting like an a$$, even if you are older than me, that doesnt mean it justifies you being an a$$. Now please if you think a stock 3.8 runs a tad bit faster than what i said, ok , sure, i agree, some do, some dont, just leave it be.

 

Oh I dunno, maybe I don't have any credentials.

Anyway, all that aside....

Auto in the 13's
Intake, exhaust, torque converter, cam, 4.10s, tires, weight reduction, programming (mainly for gears).

Manual in 13's
Intake, exhaust, clutch, cam, 4.10's, tires, weight reduction.

 

No sir, I'm very open-minded. I don't get offended over silly stuff like this. Ignorance is bliss. I actually think it's funny when someone thinks they know what they're talking about, but in reality, they're very clueless. Let's just say SOME stock 3.8 run high 15, low 16s. Not all of em. Can't we at least agree on that? http://www.fbody.com/cgi-bin/v6/read.cgi?msgid=37497

 

LMAO

You are the one who doesnt know what they are talking about.

I already said that some run faster.
I already saidthat weather/track prep have a huge impact on times.

You are not getting it, i am not the one who started posting smart-assed comments on this thread, you were.

You are just a jerk, flat out. You come here and moan about well in my opinoin a stock 3.8 runs faster by a few tenths, well gee whiz, you showed me that link of time slips and the overwhelming majority of 3.8s didnt run higher than mid 15's. About 1/4 of the cars on that list ran 15.7 or UP, and on top if it, it doesnt say what mods they have, and i am damn for sure that the 3.8's running in the 14's arent stock. You have no point. Its that simple.
I had a v6, i have 4 freinds with 3.8's, i have worked on them, ridden in them, and raced in them, and i am at the track quite frequently.

 

I ran, once I learned to drive my car to NUMEROUS 15.441 second quarters bone stock. Even a friend of mine -an extremely good driver, tied that.

I ran a 15.200 and a 15.121 with an SLP CAI.

I have no idea, nor will I know anytime soon, what I run with the Loudmouth.

The average 3800 V6, from 1995 to 2002 runs:

~14.9-15.9 depending on:

Driver.
Ambient conditions at the track.
Rear: gears and posi. Include tires here.

General rule of thumbs is that the 2000+ Y87 cars are the faster bone stock due to tuning, exhaust manifold update, and upper intake manifold revision.

I'm sure my car has 14s in it. It's a 1997 CAI, exhaust car. Do they all? Nope.

It's like the LS1. Some dyno 280 to the wheels and other dyno 330+ to the wheels when stock down to the paper filter. Average runs with bone stock LS1s are 13.5 seconds, with many hitting 14s (yes, 14s) and many hitting low 13s and even high 12s. Does that mean all LS1s are 12 second capable? NO. Does that mean some can? Obviously. However, it does mean that the majority of LS1s, given a decent driver, good weather and track prep, can easily hit 13.5...

I figure given good driver, good track and weather conditions that our 3800 series motor will hit 15.4-6 as an average. Why? Because not enough of us hit 14s, and not enough hit 16s. More hit lower mid-15s than any other time. That'd be my educated "guesstimate" for a 3800 car...

Now, death to this thread. You guys are making my head hurt. Seriously.

 

Oh, and at a particularly crap track here...

I ran a 17.272 in my car. It isn't a 17 second car.

I also ran a 4400 convertered LS1 to the 14s...but ran SAME said car at a better track with a 3500 converter to 12.901. That same car, at a better track (4400), ran a 12.49 with traction in the worst heat I've seen in years...

Difference? Track conditions. The crappy track was 101 degrees, and the import crowd was dragging water down the track all day, so traction was a HUGE issue, as well as the heat and humidity. The barometric pressure was also very low, as it stormed like crazy later that evening.