dude..

Setup:

Stock JDM B16 -never touched
Stock B16 Tranny
Stock Honda Cltuch
Stock Injectors
Stock P30 ECU

Bolt-on DRAG kit
Deltagate/FMU/Inline pump/Walbro 255 intank
10-11psi


its all stock on 10-11psi. a jdm b16 is the same as a usdm with only .5 higher compression . its still rated at 160hp.. see for yourself JDM b16 "160Hp 111Trq 10.2 Compression (JDM) " you're arguing with someone who has a turbo civic.

 

I bet he is not listing all of his mods. You really think he has the stock full exhaust, intake, computer and everything else? No way.

 

Of course I think it, do you see anyone calling BS in the thread? its been done many times before. this isnt 1997 when even 10k couldnt get u into the 13's in a civic. if you really want I can dig up the stock motor dyno record for a b16. btw why are we talking about b16's? we have no clue whats done to that civic

 

The theory goes like this. Take any n/a motor whp. Add 14.7 psi of intercooled turbo boost and you will see double the whp. Add 29.4 psi and you will see triple the whp. This is assuming standard atmospheric conditions and race gas with no detonation. I have yet to see this theory fail. It has always been very close to reality. Can you prove it wrong?

 

that so? cuz heres a 500rwhp 240sx (read, lighter than a mustang) that goes down to a civic. if i remember correctly the civic was in teh 450whp range.

http://www.technologyorgasm.com/uplo...vs500hp240.mpg

also i see you mysteriously didnt read my post PROVING you dont some BS 27psi to make 350whp. if you want more im sure i could find some, i just got sidetracked reading some other posts on there and forgot about it. but i wouldnt expect anyone to see those or comment when things are proven wrong.

 

just makin sure you didnt miss this somehow steve.

 

first of all that formula applies to cauberated motors. that didnt have computers and fuel injection, secondly how many more links do I have to show you of motors making far more than doube the power on 14.7psi. ok lemme show U another this one has lower compression on 15psi look what ot makes. turbo b16 keep in mind with 8.5:1 compression (far less than stock) it probably makes about 125whp n/a

 

608whp on 28psi as I said. 27psi should give u over 550whp.

 

I see that. The arguement was for a 125 whp bone stock 1.6 liter motor. All I was saying is this: it would take about 27 psi to make a 125 whp motor into a 350 whp motor with no other mods.

 

[QUOTE=87camracer]that so? cuz heres a 500rwhp 240sx (read, lighter than a mustang) that goes down to a civic. if i remember correctly the civic was in teh 450whp range.

http://www.technologyorgasm.com/uplo...vs500hp240.mpg
QUOTE]


What was the race weight of both cars? There are a lot of factors in a drag race beside just whp, like traction, gearing, weight, aerodynamics, driver ability, weather, etc. etc.

 

Your guessing about the 125 whp w/o the turbo. If it made about 168 whp w/o the turbo (and I bet it does) then my formula would be right on. Do you have any n/a then turbo dynoes for the same engine with no other mods and the amount of boost added?

 

That is a built motor with who knows what mods besides the turbo. It should make about 210 whp with all the mods except the turbo which is reasonable, don't you think?

 

Steve no b16 that i know over has ever made more than 200whp n/a on stock cubes. and I mean thats an agressive setup. 168whp in a low compression b16 is not gonna happen. you have alot more to learn about boost and computers Steve. 14.7psi only tells you how much the air is compressed. not the actual volume thats being compressed. basically a t88 at 14.7psi is not the same as a t3 at 14.7psi.. by your logic a t88 and t3 on the same boost level will create the same HP. a bone stock b16 with a 60-1 turbo on 14.7psi is gonna make over 360whp, a bone stock b16 with a t3 at 14.7psi is probably not going to make even 270whp.

And you also dont need mods to make more power at 14.7psi. you can adjust the timing advance and create even more power.

 

That's the funny thing about racing, sometimes weird things happen. Could have been that the Mustang had lots of power, but no suspension/chassis mods to allow that power to get put to the ground. Maybe the hatchcrap did. By the time you hit that kind of power (700 rwhp) it takes a seriously well thought out chassis/suspension to keep up with the motor. But I'm sure that you're about to tell me that everything in the race was completely equal, and the hatchcrap made up a 250 rwhp deficit simply because it's a honda

Yup, then you can get detonation and blow your **** up! The more you post the more I'm convinced that you just have no clue what you're talking about.

 

well....the quote was "Why can't people make fast cars out of fast or nice cars?"...a pile of dog sh*t doesn't qualify as a "fast car".