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Old 11-18-2004, 02:24 PM
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ss vs 30000gt

my freinds got a stock ss and some rich kid at school just got a newer turbo 3000 gt not really sure what year it is but who do u guys thing would win???
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Is the 3000 Gt a VR4? If not the SS will kill him.
If it is a VR4 it all depends on the driver and what mods are on both cars.

I've beaten my friends modded 3000 GT VR4 at low and high end but it all depends on the driver.
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Old 11-18-2004, 04:33 PM
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LSI or LT1? If its an lt1 it will be close but the lt1 has the advantage. If its and ls1 then he shouldnt hav eto wory to much aslong as his a decent driver
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Old 11-18-2004, 08:59 PM
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Like the others guys have said, you gave not not nearly enough info...first of all is it a vr4(that would be the only model that would compete w/ a 4th gen Fbody)....and is the SS a LT1 or LS1 model...im gonna take a stab in the dark and say its a LS1 ss(98-02) since theres more of those around...w/ both cars being stock the SS will crush the vr4.... if its a LT1 SS(96-97) ill still give the camaro the edge but it will be close
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sorry guys i was in class and the bell rang and had to make it quick, the 3000 gt is a vr4 and the camaro is a ls1. Im not exactly sure he has any mods on the gt but the camaro just has exhaust and some headers not sure what kind
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Originally Posted by lilmit77
sorry guys i was in class and the bell rang and had to make it quick, the 3000 gt is a vr4 and the camaro is a ls1. Im not exactly sure he has any mods on the gt but the camaro just has exhaust and some headers not sure what kind
Full exhaust is a big mod for a LS1....he's probably in the high 12's somewhere...the GT would need a good amount of mods to run w/ that
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LS1 will walk it.
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Re: ss vs 30000gt

Originally Posted by WhiteThunderZ28
Is the 3000 Gt a VR4? If not the SS will kill him.
If it is a VR4 it all depends on the driver and what mods are on both cars.

I've beaten my friends modded 3000 GT VR4 at low and high end but it all depends on the driver.
What did your friends VR4 have done to it? I have about the same mods as you and was wondering where I would stand against one.

The SS will stomp him unless he has some serious turbo work.

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The 3000GT needs all of a downpipe ($300) and a manual boost controller ($50) to run 12.90s in a 5spd car, and 12.70s in a 6spd car. Not exactly a big expenditure.

To go mid 12s like I did, you then have to add bigger injectors ($600) and something to control them (Apexi SAFC for $330). Oh, and rewire the stock fuel pump with 10 gauge wire & a relay ($30).

You'll see plenty of owners go out & buy look-good or sound-good mods and never break out of the 13s. That doesn't mean the platform can't - it just means they can't.
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Cant remember the last vr4 I saw on the road...and the newer ones for sale are still going for a ton of money
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lol the SS will be playing catch-up from the green light. VR4's are wicked off the line and if he knows what he's doing with a shifter should hit low low 13's with ease. Some magazines went high 12's with free mods. From a roll it's SS all the way.
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lol the SS will be playing catch-up from the green light. VR4's are wicked off the line and if he knows what he's doing with a shifter should hit low low 13's with ease.
What VR4 are you talkin about...best ive heard of those things going was maybe 13.6-13.7...and thats a driver that knows what hes doing
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Originally Posted by BirchMan98z
lol the SS will be playing catch-up from the green light. VR4's are wicked off the line. From a roll it's SS all the way.
Exactly.
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Re: ss vs 30000gt

Originally Posted by Antz97ZNJ
Full exhaust is a big mod for a LS1....
What do you consider a full exhaust?

I just got back from the track an hour ago.

I have a Rumbler and SLP y-pipe on my car and it didn't do ANYTHING for my 1/4-mile time. I lowered it by lowering my 60'. For a basic cat-back, it doesn't get much more wide-open than a Rumbler or a Loudmouth. I'm convinced a cat-back BARELY makes a difference.

The newest VR4 is a mid-13 sec. car. That's a driver's race with an LS1. If both drivers know what they're doing the winning car won't win by a mile.

http://popularmechanics.com/popmech/...7AUCTBM.html#9
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Cool article.

It's crazy how much slower the trap speed is on the VR4. 5-7 mph slower than the LS1's. I'm not real big on cars that require the launch to get the E.T. instead of HP. To me, they aren't as fun to drive on the street unless you're going to dump the clutch at every stop light. I like to punch it from a roll and actually feel some acceleration.

Of coarse, they are nice for snow and rain.


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