80TA

You are correct.I know the talons /eclipse /laser turbos have that hp stock.

I was referring to the car he was talking about 3000 /stealth twin turbos.

They have 300 stock..and if its awd and has even reasonable boost increase on even stock turbos and runs anything like xylene or toluene at like 20 per cent or so or runs a water /alcho injection system then that car will destroy the f body off the line and thru the quartermile and beyond.It will not even be close is my prediction..victory to the 3000 by over ten car lenghts at least.
Lots from the 60fts and lots from simply power and torque.

And the talons get up to around 300 engine with very very few and cheap mods.Rewire the fuel pump or throw in a 100 dollar US one.run 16psi.Even a bit more with xylene tolene or water /alco injection..Maybe a litlte better intake like k and n and little better exhaust .And they are lighter than the f body like 3100 pounds.Think the stealth /3000 cars weight like 3500 though around same weight as f bodies.

Anyway I have to say it but nowadays its very easy for a 4 or 6 cylinder turboed car to keep up with our mighty v8s.

But the v8s still look better under the hood and still sound better and have better torque down low until the turbo cars come on boost.
But like I said add turbo or turbos to a v8 and you will likely be able to destroy any boosted 4 or 6.Displacement will still win all things equal.Turboed small blocks can go 1200 hp and big blocks 1600 or more hp.Don't see very many 4 cylinders much past 700 or so.

But will say this one more time..Its hard to beat turbos they work too well.they have been outlawed in the past for making too much power!!

And nowadays you can buy like a 600 plus hp turbo for like 800 US and bolt it on your import.Yes you do nee support mods like bigger intercooler,bigger injectors ,better pump and good tuning but it really is plug and play. A turbo can be installed in like two hours.

80TA

Oh forgot to mention one thing..nitrous.If our f body broh wants to have a chance for fairly cheap to beat that 3000 he needs a quick 125 to 150 shot and some drag type tires..et streets or nitto drag radials for example.That would make the race much closer as nitrous works super well and gives even better torque than turbos ,until it runs out anyway.!!

But nitrous also works well in combination with turbos..spools them up faster.And turbo lag is a myth these days as they make very fast spooling ball bearing turbos that can reach huge boost levels like 30psi at 4000rpm.

Go buy some spray and tires and then run that guy..!!

MauriSSio

the 3000GT will still have noticeable turbo lag with TWO turbos?i thought the reason they came with twin turbos was for less lag.

Antz97ZNJ

If hes stock the headers will give you the edge ..stock there pretty evenly matched

cndctrdj

i thaught they had twin turbos because they are a v6 engine... you know two headers two turbos....

BlakeW5

The whole point of twin turbos is to have one that boosts at a lower RPM until the other can reach boost.

80TA

You do see some 455 built up like that and they make big power and can hit 11s or 10s with good heads ,cam,headers,intake.
And many guys do build them up.455 are more rare now as you have to get them from junkyards as you do with 400 pontiacs.Chevy small and big blocks of course you can still get brand new.I am changing out my 80 for big block chevy.The pontiac 400 is a good engine but dont look as impressive as big block chevy.Especially big block chevy with 6.71 sticking thru the hood.!!

And twin turbos can be done two ways sequential with I would think smaller one and then bigger one..this is how supra tt was done and not sure but think rx7 and mabye a few other cars or you can have two identical turbos not sequential but both smaller.

and as said nowadays with super fast spooling ball bearing designs it isn't necessary to have smaller ones anymore.

Turbos are the future.As said they are the king of poweradders.

Only nitrous can keep up and thats only as good as the bottle lasts.!!

John M

Forget any ideas about lag on the stock turbos. You realize it's rated at 315 torque at 2500 rpm? That means you aren't waiting on anything when you put the pedal down. Add some boost and that number quickly goes to over 400.

With only a boost controller and absolutely *nothing* else, it'll run 13.1 - 13.3 quite easily - if he can drive it. Bog the launch and it's hello 14-sec timeslip.

The tiny stock turbos that allow such instant power are also the downfall for top end power. If he's smart, he'll short-shift 3rd gear at about 105 mph (3rd will go to 120 on a 5spd VR4) so he can get back into usable boost. After 5k rpm the stock twins won't hold more than 12-13 psi, or as low as 10 without exhaust mods.

If his car is stock and in good shape, the best he can hope for is 13.8 - 14.0. Slap on a K&N and $20 manual boost controller and it's fun time. A $300 downpipe will wake the turbos up even more, giving quicker power and sustaining boost higher into the rpm range.

My car is about as far as you can take the stock twins. I paid for a pair of 16g's (they'll put a DSM into the 11s) a year ago this month but due to a group buy fiasco it's taking forever to see them. When I do finally get them, I'll require FAA clearance to leave my driveway

cndctrdj

my friend has a newer vr-4 and it doesn't go like i thought it would. he is the slowest car opf the group of us. i drove it a couple of times and it didn't really impress me. could thier be something wrong with it or are they just not impressive. my friends wrx is a blast to drive but he has full exhaust intake bigger turbo boost controller bigger clutch stand alone engine managment a good tune and a bunch of other stuff

MauriSSio

stock,his car shouldnt even be slower than your car.

cndctrdj

i dont know about top speed but from 30 or so on he can't touch me