My LT1 Vs. Another SRT-4
Sometimes it's too easy. Way too many kids at my track with 15-18 second cars. But at least they are racing at the track so I gotta give them props for that. But it does get a little boring winning 99.99% of the time. I've only had two losses this season. One was to a friend with a similairly modded 98 Formula and the other was to a very fast Corvette.
Darren,
Do you not have any 5 & 6 second cars running at your local track?
Must be nice to run mostly street cars at the track. I wished that was my case. Hell, I get lined up against a damn railcar running 4.90s in the 1/8th...lol
Sucks because you cant even hear your own rpms to launch. When I go to my local track I might run 1 street car for every 5 trailer queens
Darren,
Do you not have any 5 & 6 second cars running at your local track?
Must be nice to run mostly street cars at the track. I wished that was my case. Hell, I get lined up against a damn railcar running 4.90s in the 1/8th...lol
Sucks because you cant even hear your own rpms to launch. When I go to my local track I might run 1 street car for every 5 trailer queens
Do you not have any 5 & 6 second cars running at your local track?
Must be nice to run mostly street cars at the track. I wished that was my case. Hell, I get lined up against a damn railcar running 4.90s in the 1/8th...lol
Sucks because you cant even hear your own rpms to launch. When I go to my local track I might run 1 street car for every 5 trailer queens

Eventually I plan to to get to low 10's (heads and spray in the not too distant future). Then I'll migrate over to lanes 9 - 12 where I'm sure I'll lose lots of races. But it'll be more fun I think

But for now I am still running street tire/brand X. In this class I would say 50% are 14's or slower, 25% are 13's, 20% are 12's and maybe 5% hit 11's. I rarely see a roll bar in these lanes. I used to get a lot better/closer races when I was running 12.4-12.5's
Last edited by darrens99formul; Sep 22, 2008 at 05:27 PM.
So you consider 5.7L 346 ci V8 motors small. Well they are "small block motors" But I wonder what motors you consider big?
Ahh so the 2.4L 4 cyl motors are big. Gotcha
I saw a 70's boxter station wagon run 9's once. Ever see the wooly mammath on pinks? You can make anything fast with enough time and money. But I still wouldn't want to be seen driving a car that looks like a PT Cruiser or a Neon
Ahh so the 2.4L 4 cyl motors are big. Gotcha

I saw a 70's boxter station wagon run 9's once. Ever see the wooly mammath on pinks? You can make anything fast with enough time and money. But I still wouldn't want to be seen driving a car that looks like a PT Cruiser or a Neon

. Heck the guys I hang out with consider my 462 small 
The PT cruiser drove to the track, changed wheels, beat up a lot of us, changed wheels and drove home. Guy had his act together. Sleepers are cool.
Last edited by sailbrd; Sep 22, 2008 at 08:55 PM.


Some people like sleepers and that's fine. Whatever floats your boat. I prefer sporty, flashy, mean looking, ect. That's why I have always been attracted to muscle cars, sports cars and exotics like the Lamborghini
Believe there 315 sir...though i doubt the ram air effect ahs anything to do w/ it, probably just a strong LT1
Yeah, I have heard that the ram air has hardly any effect and some debate the name "ram" air.
I would agree on LT1s dynoing around 230 - 240s
220 hp is really a Friday car
I didn't think anybody would hold me to the 220 estimate. I simply guessed that based on their flywheel claim and typical losses. The first LT1 ads all made a big deal about 275 horsepower which is understandably not usually equated with 250whp. As the LT1's power went up it's more reasonable to expect more at the wheels.
I wish my truck made 300whp with 345 at the crank. Reports show its drivetrain sucks it down to around 280whp. It'll eventually get some love with a more aggressive converter. I might as well get some use out of the LSD and 305 width tires.
I wish my truck made 300whp with 345 at the crank. Reports show its drivetrain sucks it down to around 280whp. It'll eventually get some love with a more aggressive converter. I might as well get some use out of the LSD and 305 width tires.
Well I got my third loss of this season last night 
They were running a street car shootout. All cars with legal plates and registration were eligable to compete. They seperated us into five classes:
AA = 10.49 or faster
A = 10.50 - 11.49
B = 11.50 - 12.49 (my class obviously)
C = 12.50 - 13.49
D = 13.50 and slower
There were 40+ cars in the D class, 40 + cars in the C class, 8 cars in the B class (including me), less then 15 in the A class and less then 15 in the AA class.
My first round race was against a classic hot rod. It kind of looked like the ZZtop car from the sharped dressed man video. I seen him run a 11.7 in a bracket race. I knew I had to be on my game at the pro tree because I was running 11.8 @ 115 all night dead hooking with 1.61 60's.
I do a burnout, line up, stall to 2500 rpm's and wait. First sign of yellow I let her rip and I tree him! Then my heart sinks as I feel my car spinning off the line
He pulls half a car on me and by the eighth I'm at his front fender. I very slowly reel him in but at the quarter he was a fender out front. The final numbers for me were 1.79 60' and 12.00 @ 115 to his 1.64 60' and 11.89 @ 114.
All night I was dead hooking but the one pass that really mattered is when the track stops gripping. DOH!
But it was fun. And the fact that only 8 cars were in my class shows why I win so many damn races on normal test n tune. All the fast cars run a different class then me and most of what's left is 12.5 or above

They were running a street car shootout. All cars with legal plates and registration were eligable to compete. They seperated us into five classes:
AA = 10.49 or faster
A = 10.50 - 11.49
B = 11.50 - 12.49 (my class obviously)
C = 12.50 - 13.49
D = 13.50 and slower
There were 40+ cars in the D class, 40 + cars in the C class, 8 cars in the B class (including me), less then 15 in the A class and less then 15 in the AA class.
My first round race was against a classic hot rod. It kind of looked like the ZZtop car from the sharped dressed man video. I seen him run a 11.7 in a bracket race. I knew I had to be on my game at the pro tree because I was running 11.8 @ 115 all night dead hooking with 1.61 60's.
I do a burnout, line up, stall to 2500 rpm's and wait. First sign of yellow I let her rip and I tree him! Then my heart sinks as I feel my car spinning off the line
He pulls half a car on me and by the eighth I'm at his front fender. I very slowly reel him in but at the quarter he was a fender out front. The final numbers for me were 1.79 60' and 12.00 @ 115 to his 1.64 60' and 11.89 @ 114.All night I was dead hooking but the one pass that really mattered is when the track stops gripping. DOH!
But it was fun. And the fact that only 8 cars were in my class shows why I win so many damn races on normal test n tune. All the fast cars run a different class then me and most of what's left is 12.5 or above
Last edited by darrens99formul; Sep 25, 2008 at 07:34 AM.
Yea unlike the LS1's the ram air did seem to help the Lt1 models...Not so much on the rollers but more at the strip...Its wasnt unheard of to see a 6spd Lt1 ss turning 13.6's stock w/ the right driver.
I know a guy in MT Airy with a Neon SRT4 that dynoed 320 at the wheels.
I have seen that guy kill tons of LT1s and LS1s from a stop or a roll. They(SRTs) can be pretty fast though I can't launch one to save my life.
Good kill! Though he should have clobbered you
I have seen that guy kill tons of LT1s and LS1s from a stop or a roll. They(SRTs) can be pretty fast though I can't launch one to save my life.
Good kill! Though he should have clobbered you


Seemed to help my car in a rather indirect manner. I was trapping roughly 3 mph more than a friends similarly equipped non ram air car. Hell we even dynoed the same as well as pulled 60's really close to each others.
even wikipedia deems muscle cars as having V8's... not so much for the 4cyl variety
Not that wiki is the tell all of the automotive world but still it seems to be common practice to think this way
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Muscle_car
Sorry but an SRT4 is more of an american tuner car along with the cobalt SS
Not that wiki is the tell all of the automotive world but still it seems to be common practice to think this way
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Muscle_car
Sorry but an SRT4 is more of an american tuner car along with the cobalt SS
even wikipedia deems muscle cars as having V8's... not so much for the 4cyl variety
Not that wiki is the tell all of the automotive world but still it seems to be common practice to think this way
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Muscle_car
Sorry but an SRT4 is more of an american tuner car along with the cobalt SS
Not that wiki is the tell all of the automotive world but still it seems to be common practice to think this way
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Muscle_car
Sorry but an SRT4 is more of an american tuner car along with the cobalt SS
Taste the rainbow


