Mustangs are slow!
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Re: Mustangs are slow!
Originally Posted by myslowcamaro
i know what you mean, im almost to the point of saying "those cobras are so slow" 
j/k, still on a high since beating one the other night. nice car you have mhhodges
j/k, still on a high since beating one the other night. nice car you have mhhodgesThere's nothing wrong with being happy about winning a race you were suppost to lose. Racing is quite different when you have 400+ hp and so does your opponent. The outcome can be determined by a missed gear, an over revved gear, a poor launch, no traction, rookie wheelman, etc. Every race that I lost, I had a good reason for losing (good reason to me). Every now and then I get my *** handed to me, which brings me back to reality. I just think some people get caught up in the whole mustangs suck/are slow, mustang drivers are bad, GM rocks 4-ever. I have always liked GM products and disliked Fords. When I got tired of dumping $$ in my T/A (LT1) and decided I have changed my last optispark, I was in search of a new sports car. Options were 04 GTO, Mach 1, 05 GT, and maybe an 02 SS. I had to have a backseat (wifes only request). The choice seemed easy to me after driving the Mach and getting a steal.
Just about any pre-05 GT, w/the 2 valve are a joke stock. The 03-04 Cobras where out of my $ range. I liked the feel of the M6 GTO and loved the interior but the exterior was unbearable. The 05 GT's could not be received until late Feb.(this was NOV.) If I could've found a clean SS with low miles, and a good price I probably would have bought it.
I have respect for all cars that are fast or made fast. I also believe that someone will always be faster....whether it's a GM,Ford, or a Dodge. End rant!
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Re: Mustangs are slow!
Originally Posted by JakeRobb
Cruising on highway, leisurely 75mph in 6th. Unknown car behind me, reasonable following distance. Nobody in front. Two lanes, I'm in the left. On the right, up ahead, is a semi doing 60. A Mustang GT (pre-05, but I don't know my years very well) is coming down an on ramp, set to merge right next to me.
The Mustang accelerates, obviously trying to get in front of me before I pass the semi. I drop it to 4th gear and get into it, not even full throttle, to about 90. The Mustang can almost keep up. He falls in behind me, following closely. Evidently, he thinks it's a close race. Then again, he probably doesn't know I could have grabbed 3rd at that speed. We get caught up in traffic and slow back down to 75. So, when traffic clears, I decide to show him what 3rd gear is like in an M6 LS1. I drop the hammer and walk away. Shifted to 4th at redline and ran it up to 110 or so before letting her coast back down to 75 and watching the Mustang do a ricer flyby.
My wife was in the car, cheering me on.
The Mustang accelerates, obviously trying to get in front of me before I pass the semi. I drop it to 4th gear and get into it, not even full throttle, to about 90. The Mustang can almost keep up. He falls in behind me, following closely. Evidently, he thinks it's a close race. Then again, he probably doesn't know I could have grabbed 3rd at that speed. We get caught up in traffic and slow back down to 75. So, when traffic clears, I decide to show him what 3rd gear is like in an M6 LS1. I drop the hammer and walk away. Shifted to 4th at redline and ran it up to 110 or so before letting her coast back down to 75 and watching the Mustang do a ricer flyby.
My wife was in the car, cheering me on.
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Re: Mustangs are slow!
Come on, you guys, it's a kill story. It happened as I described. Just because some other car, made in some other year, and possibly modified by somebody else, would have beat me, doesn't detract from the fact that my car is quite a bit faster than a stock 94-98 V8 Mustang.
Fine, so it was an easy kill. As soon as I come up against an '03-04 Cobra, I'll post another kill story, whether it's him or me getting killed. In the meantime, I post the stories I have. Do you want me to make up stories about encounters with cars more closely matched to mine, and then post those? I could do that.
Fine, so it was an easy kill. As soon as I come up against an '03-04 Cobra, I'll post another kill story, whether it's him or me getting killed. In the meantime, I post the stories I have. Do you want me to make up stories about encounters with cars more closely matched to mine, and then post those? I could do that.
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Re: Mustangs are slow!
Originally Posted by JakeRobb
Come on, you guys, it's a kill story. It happened as I described. Just because some other car, made in some other year, and possibly modified by somebody else, would have beat me, doesn't detract from the fact that my car is quite a bit faster than a stock 94-98 V8 Mustang.
Fine, so it was an easy kill. As soon as I come up against an '03-04 Cobra, I'll post another kill story, whether it's him or me getting killed. In the meantime, I post the stories I have. Do you want me to make up stories about encounters with cars more closely matched to mine, and then post those? I could do that.
Fine, so it was an easy kill. As soon as I come up against an '03-04 Cobra, I'll post another kill story, whether it's him or me getting killed. In the meantime, I post the stories I have. Do you want me to make up stories about encounters with cars more closely matched to mine, and then post those? I could do that.
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Re: Mustangs are slow!
Originally Posted by myslowcamaro
as long as you dont think all mustangs are slow. that would be foolish. good kill tho.
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Re: Mustangs are slow!
Originally Posted by CANTONRACER
"I decide to show him what 3rd gear is like in an M6 LS1"
What is it like hitting Warp 10....you raced an automatic V6 stang...admit it.
What is it like hitting Warp 10....you raced an automatic V6 stang...admit it.
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Re: Mustangs are slow!
Originally Posted by narlydude
thats a weak kill for a ls1...i mean the 93-97 lt1 camaros can whoop on 98-04 mustangs, possibly 05 too, mustangs are junk unless you go intot he 03-04 cobras then theres some power
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Re: Mustangs are slow!
Originally Posted by mustangmuncher
2v GT's are horrible, no matter what year, and without some sort of power adder they are more than likely not keeping up. I know a couple of guys that got a 99+ to go a 13.9 all stock, but they are the same guys who drive like maniacs! They broke several trannys getting those runs in. Now the 3v cars aren't much better on the stock tune, havent had a problem with one yet.
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Re: Mustangs are slow!
Originally Posted by Fast Caddie
Good kill, but.... lol, i wouldn't go as far as to call ALL of them slow. The modular blocks are hideously strong with an awsome valvetrain to go with it. Some 4V 4.6s have surpassed 1400hp using the factory block and cobra crank (it isn't hard to swap 4V heads into a 2V engine, btw). With builds using the 4V 5.4L engine coming along, more impressive numbers are sure to follow. I used to be a modular basher, but since the racing world started to warm up to them and show their potential, i've taken a liking to them. Neat little engines... sort of a modern LT5, so to speak. And they just sound so damn good too.
Absolutely stellar post and thanks for the props. Like you, I was a die hard pushrod fan for many years, however, these little modular engines continue to impress me sspecially considering the small cubes. I have a very close friend that has run 9.0@152 through a 2V (drag radial class/blower class) so I know they are very capable. He is shooting for 7's (yes 7's in the quarter mile hahaha) next year with new turbo and new setup. I can't wait to watch him amaze folks.
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Tim
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Re: Mustangs are slow!
Originally Posted by Bersaglieri
Well I'd have to side with GM in the 96-97 years too, since the DOHC Cobra was an optional package, its only fair to include GM's optional LT4 package.
-Dustin-
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... A fair comparison is the 96-97 ss/ws6 vs the cobra...**** if thats the case lets bring the 351 Saleens in the mix...see how they do against the LT4
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Re: Mustangs are slow!
Originally Posted by narlydude
mustangs are junk unless you go intot he 03-04 cobras then theres some power
