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Old Sep 21, 2006 | 04:15 PM
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Re: LS2 gto vs. 01 ls1 fbody>?

its extremely hard to beleive that a 10+ year old GM does not rattle. I dont care if its hardtop/no top or whatever. Turn the radio off and youll think there are monkeys screetching in the back.
Old Sep 21, 2006 | 06:00 PM
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Re: LS2 gto vs. 01 ls1 fbody>?

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LMAO pretty hypocritical considering you owned one and I'm sure are/were happy with it of the time you had it.
The statements were sarcastic.

As I said before. I could care less what you say about the 4th gen. It suits me fine for what it is.
I suits you fine because that is all you can afford.

That's fantastic. But you still don't get my point. You specifically asked me why I bought my car and I told you why. Why is this so difficult for you to understand? It's almost laughable how you are reading like a grade schooler.
You want to spend 30K on a garbage barge that doesn't make full use of its power and justify why it doesn't... that's absolutely okay. But you are not in the right forum to do so! LOL
blah... more of the same.

Interesting... This is exactly why I stay away from such retarded arguments like this. I could really care less what you paid for your garbage barge. I've said that all along. These arguments are retarded. Sucks that your f-body was so expensive. Mine window stickered at $23,200. So if I didn't take it to SLP I'm sure I could've picked it up for less than that window stickered price.
You stay away from arguments like this because they involve real factors, and actual numbers, not generalizations that involve no real proof to back up.

But really. WHO GIVES A RATS ***!
Obviously, YOU do. You keep talking up your car, and using it as the measuring stick.

It's like yellavette... so after you get your *** cracked by a LT1 f-body and after you pick your jaw up off the ground, are you going to whine about how your car was such a swell deal?
AAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAAHHHAHHHHHAAHHAAHHAHAAA!! !
I honestly could care less if your car is faster. If I was to race a LT1 and lose, it wouldn't be the first time, nor would it be the last. I know a few people personally that own 10 second LT1s. I never said an LT1 couldn't be made fast.

The reason we keep coming bake to your car, is because You keep bringing it up.

So these SS's I've told you about going low 13's along the eastern seaboard that means the GTO is in the mid to low 12's. WOW!!!! LMAO!
I guess what you see or hear should be considered the written word.
I specifically mentioned an LT1. So, please show me ONE stock LT1, down to the weight and tires, that is running low 13s.

In other words, "You can't have an opinion! You MUST like it because I have one! Sieg Heil!"
LAME! How long is it going to take to convince you that no matter how you try to twist your arguments it will not sway my opinion that the new garbage barge is nothing but a boring TURD!
More of the same, I'm lazy and I will quote myself:
I never asked you to like one. I never asked you to buy one. I asked you to base your tirades on some real facts, not "I think" so therefore "It is."
Awww don't be mad. Just get in your garbage barge and all your troubles will go away... that's until you get destroyed by a LT1 f-body at some point in time.
AAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA
Um... Okay?!?!? I really wouldn't care. It wouldn't be the first or last time it would have happened.

I know there will always be someone that owns a faster car. I didn't buy the cars to make 1/4 mile runs. I bought them to be daily driven and still quick enough should the need arise. I guess I am not like you, I don't live my life one 1/4 mile at a time

Maybe you just don't know how to work on your own car? And you were tired of getting beat by newer mustangs and every LS1 ever created?
Nope. I know how to work on my cars, and spent a lot of time turning a wrench on the 1993 Z28 I owned. I don't do much of it now, because I am not really to interested in making the GTO or Z28 much faster and since there both still covered under warranty I don't really care to do my own maintenance either. That's what I call working smarter, not harder.

So you decided to splurge on the garbage barge and now all is right with your world? Sounds about right.
Nope, that's an incorrect assesment too. My world is fine. Things really are going well. I am 27 and happily married to my wife of 3 years. We travel a lot (In the last year we've spent a week on a cruise, a week in Florida, and we just came back from a week long trip in the US Virgin Islands. Would you like some pictures? ). I have stuck with my New Year's resolution and got below my goal weight of 175 from 205 (I'm currently at 165). Also, we're planning on starting a family early next year.

I have a job I like. We both make more than enough. We have no credit debt. We will have our $150,000 house, and all cars paid for in the next 5 years.

Really, my world is fine. A 2004 GTO isn't what makes me smile when I get up So, If I was to lose to an LT1 do you really think I would get that bent out of shape? If I cared, don't you think I wouldn't just redirect some cash from the house, cars, or travel to building a badass street machine?

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Old Sep 21, 2006 | 06:28 PM
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Re: LS2 gto vs. 01 ls1 fbody>?

Originally Posted by korrrray34
its extremely hard to beleive that a 10+ year old GM does not rattle. I dont care if its hardtop/no top or whatever. Turn the radio off and youll think there are monkeys screetching in the back.
Speak for yourself. Perhaps the reason why mine doesn't rattle is because I've never taken it off any sweet jumps.
Old Sep 21, 2006 | 06:38 PM
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Originally Posted by Kris93/95Z28
Really, my world is fine. A 2004 GTO isn't what makes me smile when I get up So, If I was to lose to an LT1 do you really think I would get that bent out of shape? If I cared, don't you think I wouldn't just redirect some cash from the house, cars, or travel to building a badass street machine?
LMMFAO!!!
So you have to justify just how wonderful your life is in a track kills forum.
AAAAAAAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAAHAHAHAHHHHAHHHAHAHHAHAAHA!! !
There's no ego attached to your car now is there?
You are the best with that no credit car debt and that 150K house in Arkansas. Good for you! I'm happy you're happy! If you're happy driving a garbage barge then I'm happy for you. You have your reasons to praise a garbage barge and I have my reasons why I hate it. It's just that simple.
And please.. I've already been over this ET crap with yellavette. He shot himself in the foot when he supplied a link to some garbage barge ET's and for the mods they had they were running PATHETICALLY SLOW!
That's been the argument all along... IRS SUCKS for straight line and the GTO is shaped like a GARBAGE BARGE and damn near weighs as much. It's a shame you keep drifting off since you have no substance to your counterpoints. No matter what kind of "facts" I would bring up you'd still try to find some estrogen filled way to argue. It's over, Johnny. You and all the garbage barge buddies of this thread still have not convinced me to respect a garbage barge.

P.S. A perfect example as to why all of your arguments are completely retarded:
Originally Posted by Kris93/95Z28
The reason we keep coming bake to your car, is because You keep bringing it up.
Originally Posted by Kris93/95Z28
Let's talk about your car a bit more.
Old Sep 21, 2006 | 06:43 PM
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Re: LS2 gto vs. 01 ls1 fbody>?

Originally Posted by SS RRR
LMMFAO!!!
So you have to justify just how wonderful your life is in a track kills forum. AAAAAAAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAAHAHAHAHHHHAHHHAHAHHAHAAHA!! !
There's no ego attached to your car now is there?
Do you forget things this quickly?!?!?! Your memory must be pretty short:
Originally Posted by SS RRR
So you decided to splurge on the garbage barge and now all is right with your world? Sounds about right.
If you don't recall, you're the one that just tried to insult me, and act like splurging on a GTO is what made my life peachy. I simply let you know that I could give a damn about the GTO, or another other car even if it is faster.

The rest of your BS post is more of the same, and I won't respond to it.

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Old Sep 21, 2006 | 07:04 PM
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Re: LS2 gto vs. 01 ls1 fbody>?

This thread has got to be one of the dumbest things I have ever read, its worse than little kids arguing.
Old Sep 21, 2006 | 08:47 PM
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Re: LS2 gto vs. 01 ls1 fbody>?

Low 13's on a stock LT1? I've had four LT1 vettes. 2-300 lbs. lighter than the fbody with the same engine. Still not capable of low 13's.

Originally Posted by SS RRR
Holy hell.... It's unbelievable how you can fabricate your own retarded arguments in some desperate attempt. This is like trying to make a 2nd grader understand.
I AM NOT WRONG. Where did I ever specify I was only talking about SLP cars? Please re-read. Perhaps you'll get it?

LMAO pretty hypocritical considering you owned one and I'm sure are/were happy with it of the time you had it. As I said before. I could care less what you say about the 4th gen. It suits me fine for what it is.

That's fantastic. But you still don't get my point. You specifically asked me why I bought my car and I told you why. Why is this so difficult for you to understand? It's almost laughable how you are reading like a grade schooler.
You want to spend 30K on a garbage barge that doesn't make full use of its power and justify why it doesn't... that's absolutely okay. But you are not in the right forum to do so! LOL

Interesting... This is exactly why I stay away from such retarded arguments like this. I could really care less what you paid for your garbage barge. I've said that all along. These arguments are retarded. Sucks that your f-body was so expensive. Mine window stickered at $23,200. So if I didn't take it to SLP I'm sure I could've picked it up for less than that window stickered price. But really. WHO GIVES A RATS ***! It's like yellavette... so after you get your *** cracked by a LT1 f-body and after you pick your jaw up off the ground, are you going to whine about how your car was such a swell deal?
AAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAAHHHAHHHHHAAHHAAHHAHAAA!! !

So these SS's I've told you about going low 13's along the eastern seaboard that means the GTO is in the mid to low 12's. WOW!!!! LMAO!
I guess what you see or hear should be considered the written word.

In other words, "You can't have an opinion! You MUST like it because I have one! Sieg Heil!"
LAME! How long is it going to take to convince you that no matter how you try to twist your arguments it will not sway my opinion that the new garbage barge is nothing but a boring TURD!

My crapmaro is a hard top. You go have a great work out. Remember to keep a full range of motion when lifting so when you bulk up you can still wipe your own ***.

Awww don't be mad. Just get in your garbage barge and all your troubles will go away... that's until you get destroyed by a LT1 f-body at some point in time.
AAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA

Maybe you just don't know how to work on your own car? And you were tired of getting beat by newer mustangs and every LS1 ever created? So you decided to splurge on the garbage barge and now all is right with your world? Sounds about right.

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Old Sep 21, 2006 | 08:52 PM
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Uh, retard, the links I supplied were STOCK cars, not modded...LOL. Why do you lie? A lot of those cars ran high 12's. If that's pathetically slow, what's that make your 14 second lt1. And if IRS is so terrible, how can I run low 12's off bottle and high 11's on? I'm not saying it's better than LRA for launching, but do you really think I could do better than 1.8x's on street tires? Have you ever done better with your LRA setup?

Originally Posted by SS RRR
LMMFAO!!!
So you have to justify just how wonderful your life is in a track kills forum.
AAAAAAAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAAHAHAHAHHHHAHHHAHAHHAHAAHA!! !
There's no ego attached to your car now is there?
You are the best with that no credit car debt and that 150K house in Arkansas. Good for you! I'm happy you're happy! If you're happy driving a garbage barge then I'm happy for you. You have your reasons to praise a garbage barge and I have my reasons why I hate it. It's just that simple.
And please.. I've already been over this ET crap with yellavette. He shot himself in the foot when he supplied a link to some garbage barge ET's and for the mods they had they were running PATHETICALLY SLOW!
That's been the argument all along... IRS SUCKS for straight line and the GTO is shaped like a GARBAGE BARGE and damn near weighs as much. It's a shame you keep drifting off since you have no substance to your counterpoints. No matter what kind of "facts" I would bring up you'd still try to find some estrogen filled way to argue. It's over, Johnny. You and all the garbage barge buddies of this thread still have not convinced me to respect a garbage barge.

P.S. A perfect example as to why all of your arguments are completely retarded:

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Old Sep 21, 2006 | 09:31 PM
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Originally Posted by yellavette
Uh, retard, the links I supplied were STOCK cars, not modded...LOL. Why do you lie?
O'RLY?
Here's the link you supplied:
http://www.ls2gto.com/forums/forumdisplay.php?f=22
Looks like an all out list to me! Why do YOU lie?
You told another member to go to LS2.com and look at those times:
http://www.ls2gto.com/forums/showthread.php?t=14617
He did and all of the sudden you change your tune and start in on blabbering on about stock performance.
Those two links are perfect examples as to how the garbage barge does not make good use of its power.
A lot of those cars ran high 12's.
LS2gto.com there are 9 out of 13 cars in the low 13's. Who's lying again?
If that's pathetically slow, what's that make your 14 second lt1.
Actually it's a 15 second LT1. Do your homework.
And if IRS is so terrible, how can I run low 12's off bottle and high 11's on?
Because of the power you have your times are weak and your shat is whackadoo!
I'm not saying it's better than LRA for launching,
Could you repeat that once again, please?
I'm not saying it's better than LRA for launching,
Wait... one more time...
I'm not saying it's better than LRA for launching,
You know.. I'm still not convinced you typed that... please repeat...
I'm not saying it's better than LRA for launching,
OH NOES!!!! YOU DID NOT SAY THAT! YOU DID............ NOT........ SAY.... THAT!!!
Geezus H. tapdancing tittybouncing cripes!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
WHAT DO YOU THINK THIS THREAD AND THE OTHER THREAD WERE ABOUT?
I repeated myself OVER AND OVER AND OVER TELLING YOU HOW WEAK IRS WAS IN STRAIGHT LINE PERFORMANCE AND YOU DID NOTHING BUT DIG YOURSELF IN A HOLE!!!
AAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHHHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAAHHAHAH AHA
What forum is this again? What have these two threads been about? I think you are smart enough to answer those two questions............................. right?
but do you really think I could do better than 1.8x's on street tires? Have you ever done better with your LRA setup?
NOPE... but I can put slicks on my turd and not have to worry about weakass half shafts breaking and hoping like a bunny when I launch and not have to splatter on a thousand excuses as to why my junk didn't run any better. !!!!!
Thank you yellavette for finally coming out of the closet and admitting what I've been saying all along. You have nothing else to add to this discussion so it'd probably be best for you to excuse yourself now and go sit in your 458rwhp impulse blue (sounds like a girly perfume) garbage barge and think of more excuses as to why you run such pathetic times.

Have a nice day.
Old Sep 21, 2006 | 11:18 PM
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Krys93/95Z28 ~ I gotta disagree with you on this one :

Once again, you're holding the GTO to a standard that your not holding your car to. Did GM dare to be different with the 4th gen?!? The Crapmaro was pretty much the same stinking pile of **** from 1982 to 2002. Wow! Notice how A LOT of parts will bolt right in a 3rd gen from a 4th? Ever heard the phrase about putting lipstick of a pig? In this case the motor was the lipstick.

The camaro was totally revamped in 1993. You'd be suprised how much stuff is NOT interchangable. You also are probably going to be surpised to hear that stinking **** pile third gen was one of the best handling uni-bodies ever built. 3rd gens got a bad rap because they were cheap, and cheap asshoels drive them into the ground. You would **** yourself if you knew the true potential of a 3rd gen in handling. They just never had enough motor behind them to make a name for them selves at the autocross track. And when they did, they came with a ****ty automatic, which, totally blows for auto-X. The few people at the time ( Late 80's early 90's) who caught on, did a manual trans swap, and went autocrossing, pretty much dominated in their classes.
Old Sep 22, 2006 | 12:07 AM
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Originally Posted by HardcoreRM125
The camaro was totally revamped in 1993. You'd be suprised how much stuff is NOT interchangable. You also are probably going to be surpised to hear that stinking **** pile third gen was one of the best handling uni-bodies ever built. 3rd gens got a bad rap because they were cheap, and cheap asshoels drive them into the ground. You would **** yourself if you knew the true potential of a 3rd gen in handling. They just never had enough motor behind them to make a name for them selves at the autocross track. And when they did, they came with a ****ty automatic, which, totally blows for auto-X. The few people at the time ( Late 80's early 90's) who caught on, did a manual trans swap, and went autocrossing, pretty much dominated in their classes.
Good point... a friend of mine by the name of Mark Young won a handful of national solo II events in a T/A GTA back in the mid and late 90's.

Besides that he really doesn't feel that way. He's just trying to get people all fired up so he doesn't look like such a dufus making such a big deal over this.
Old Sep 22, 2006 | 06:38 AM
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all idiots idiots 10 pages is warmer and warmer im up 630 just to log on and see where its at. Who cares what the camaro and pontiac and the 3rd gen did new cars are coming out just like missles and airplanes and new starins of the flu
Old Sep 22, 2006 | 07:37 AM
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i read on a GTA site that the 3rd gen body could not handle the 240 hp 5.7l motor with T5 manual tranmission, it sais when they tested, T-tops were popping and some other stuff. So they only offered manual transmission with 305 motors. I dont know if it makes sense or not but thats what they say...
Old Sep 22, 2006 | 07:47 AM
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Originally Posted by korrrray34
i read on a GTA site that the 3rd gen body could not handle the 240 hp 5.7l motor with T5 manual tranmission, it sais when they tested, T-tops were popping and some other stuff. So they only offered manual transmission with 305 motors. I dont know if it makes sense or not but thats what they say...
They didn't put the T5 behind the 5.7 because the engine exceeded the torque rating for the transmission. I believe the non-world-class T5's(as would be fitted in the F-body) were rated at only ~300 lb-ft. With more torque(than the 305) and and relatively heavy car, they weren't reliable. That is what I heard anyways. I know I certainly wouldn't want one in my car. I have see relatively stock cars split the case in half with a set of sticky tires and a decent launch.
Old Sep 22, 2006 | 08:46 AM
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I only gave 2 links EVER. One for stock ls1's and one for stock ls2's. Prove me wrong and link to my post.

Is there anyone else here willing to back up SSR in his belief that 12.44 off bottle and 11.89 on bottle on street tires is pathetic?? Anyone??

SSR, have YOU ever run better times in your car? I've asked you that before, but you avoid the question. We both trap 114 (without NOS). Can you beat 12.44? Seems that with my HUGE weight problem and my HUGE IRS problem, you should have me licked, right? I know you can't touch the 11.89 so I won't ask. But if you haven't beaten 12.44 by a pretty good margin, I think you should think twice about all the b.s you say and STFU!


Originally Posted by SS RRR
O'RLY?
Here's the link you supplied:
http://www.ls2gto.com/forums/forumdisplay.php?f=22
Looks like an all out list to me! Why do YOU lie?
You told another member to go to LS2.com and look at those times:
http://www.ls2gto.com/forums/showthread.php?t=14617
He did and all of the sudden you change your tune and start in on blabbering on about stock performance.
Those two links are perfect examples as to how the garbage barge does not make good use of its power.

LS2gto.com there are 9 out of 13 cars in the low 13's. Who's lying again?

Actually it's a 15 second LT1. Do your homework.

Because of the power you have your times are weak and your shat is whackadoo!

Could you repeat that once again, please?

Wait... one more time...

You know.. I'm still not convinced you typed that... please repeat...

OH NOES!!!! YOU DID NOT SAY THAT! YOU DID............ NOT........ SAY.... THAT!!!
Geezus H. tapdancing tittybouncing cripes!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
WHAT DO YOU THINK THIS THREAD AND THE OTHER THREAD WERE ABOUT?
I repeated myself OVER AND OVER AND OVER TELLING YOU HOW WEAK IRS WAS IN STRAIGHT LINE PERFORMANCE AND YOU DID NOTHING BUT DIG YOURSELF IN A HOLE!!!
AAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHHHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAAHHAHAH AHA
What forum is this again? What have these two threads been about? I think you are smart enough to answer those two questions............................. right?

NOPE... but I can put slicks on my turd and not have to worry about weakass half shafts breaking and hoping like a bunny when I launch and not have to splatter on a thousand excuses as to why my junk didn't run any better. !!!!!
Thank you yellavette for finally coming out of the closet and admitting what I've been saying all along. You have nothing else to add to this discussion so it'd probably be best for you to excuse yourself now and go sit in your 458rwhp impulse blue (sounds like a girly perfume) garbage barge and think of more excuses as to why you run such pathetic times.

Have a nice day.

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