You are exactly right. That would've been extremely funny to see and if I were a friend of yours who witnessed that run I'd never let you live it down.
Hmmm.... performance reviews are one thing however styling is completely different. Those "magazine editors" have an open ticket to drive the snot out of most every car manufactured in the world. Their asses have been planted in more cars than you have in your 13.0@114 turd bucket. They know a hell of a lot more about styling/refinement than any of us in this thread put together.

 

Ah... the "got to" poor white trash blanket reply. It's as original as your garbage barge piece of ****. However there are flaws in what you state. I don't hate anyone. I hate the car. Again you and yellavette seem to have that ego/car thing all tangled together and have no choice (since you do not know any better) but to personalize your replies.
Funny how the narrow minded always think if an object is hated it is always desired. Perhaps typing from personal experience?

P.S. Did you forget what forum this is?

 

Not going to argue w/you (anymore than I already have) like a 10-year-old, but if you're not jealous (highly unlikely) then you are just a bitter little guy. Either way, not my problem.

 

This is what I like about the garbage barge mentality. If you have a differing opinion regarding the garbage barge you are an outcast.
It's very funny to read!
I'd rather not be one of the brand loyal lemmings and attatch myself to the ****** of GM by celebrating mediocrity whenever they spit out something sub par.

 

You're missing the point bro. The fact that you argue and whine because people don't agree that the GTO is a piece of **** makes you an 'outcast' as you call it. Your attitude is the problem, not your opinion.

You seem like an alright guy in other forums *shrug*, maybe you just use the kill section to express your alter ego. :P

 

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Yeah, they are heavy when compared to a 4th gen. But I fail to see how a car that in stock form that is high 12/low 13 second capable is slow? Coming from someone whose car would be lucky to run anything better than a 13.8 stock? Why did you buy the 96 in the first place?

Ummm, okay... Back to the the "Look at the big ole chip on my shoulder, he thinks he's better than me, my 10 year old car thing." Frankly, I am not sure anyone gives a **** about YOUR car. Like I have stated many times. If you want to hate the GTO, fine, that's your right. All I have asked is that you hate it for real reasons.

i.e. If the GTO is too slow:
What times would you expect it to run in stock form to be fast?

I highly doubt it.

 

Oh contrar munfrar.... I have no problem with anyone calling my car whatever it is they desire. I don't care what others think about it. It gives me the satisfaction I need when I drive it maybe once or twice a week. My attitude? So now that I express my opinion on what I think of a garbage barge it is now an attitude problem? !
You garbage barge owners kill me!

 

I actually didn't like the SS the first time I saw it in C&D. My wife and brother-in-law actually talked me into buying it because it was reportedly faster than the regular Z28 and I wanted to stop being bullied by all the Mustangs that were destroying my '85 V6 Camaro.
So the plan was to buy the SS (the look grew on me), keep it stock, started a turbo charged project on the '85. That fell through since what I wanted to do was going to be in the neighborhood of $10K (not including chassis and drivetrain) and decided to mod the SS and haven't regretted it for a second. Both my sons love the SS and that gives me enough incentive to keep it. Is that enough of a life story for you?
BTW... My SS completely stock w/ BFG Comp T/A's ran a 13.6 @ 102 at its best. There have been reports all along the eastern seaboard of SS's running in the low 13's. But by all means, don't take my word for it. I'm not going to get into the dumb stock/stock/mod/mod argument.
They are "real reasons". Perhaps not for you, but they are for me. I will not be forced to like something based on yours or anyone else’s opinions. It still is a free country? If no one gave a **** about my car then why is everyone posting trying to convince me I'm wrong?
You'd be surprised of the sudden interest those have in my car once they get beat.
Which is why I am not impressed.

 

As long as people don't get their ego mixed into the car thing and not take it to a personal level then I really don't see where the problem is in having a discussion about performance.

 

I must recant part of my statement regarding the argument of whether or not editors of C&D know anything about performance. Do you have any idea who Brock Yates is? If not, you should do a little research.

 

Hmmm, there are guys out there running 12's with 102 MPH traps. How come your garbage barge can't run better than mid 13's, at its best? Doesn't sound like a very efficient use of power to me.

Oh yes, I know who Brock Yates is, and that still doesn't change the fact that styling is purely subjective. There really is no right and wrong when it comes to styling. There can be a concensus, yes, but that's about it. Just because Brock Yates has an opinion doesn't make it fact.

 

You didn't answer the question.

Once again. What would it take for a GTO to be fast? I am talking about horsepower, 1/4 mile times, and trap speeds, not cubic inches. Cubic inches aren't not a determination of how fast a car is.

 

Umm, when did you ask for et's? I never saw that. And quit with the IRS. It makes you sound like an idiot. The only problem I have is tire spin. My best e.t off bottle is a 12.44, which I'm proud of given my my skinny street tires. Now go ahead and rip that apart so you feel better about your car.

 

Aww... the ol' reverse psychology trick... I know of no f-body or GTO Garbage Barge that is running 12's at 102mph. Second... the subject keeps being brought up comparing other cars to either the garbage barge or the Camaro. Keep things in focus here. Thirdly.... as stated before. Don't care what you think. You are one to type with that astounding 13sec. pass @ 102mph. You and yellavette should race. Probably would be close!
I think for what I've done to my junker it's been good for me. Get it yet?
Everything is subjective. I'm not stating anything I've said as concrete fact. As stated for the bazillionth time it's my OPINION. I am telling YOU how I feel about the Pontiac GTO GARBAGE BARGE. But I trust the opinion of the experienced long before I'd listen to the average joe. Especially when their experienced opinion agrees w/ mine.