Thanks scott.
Not trying to start another side discussion about
the whole "blower" thing but it is a matter of perspective.
It isn't that much crap as you may view it and I think
they only did it since without the Fbod they had to
compete with C5 including Z06 and quickly.
Putting in the 5.4 isn't that easy and crate motors
differs as they are not warrantied, so you have a
whole nother ball of wax, GM has a few hot ones too.
Also you bring up the cubes but 32V 4cams makes
up the difference, no.

 

I don't understand how you can say the Mustang Cobra is not actually a Mustang Specially built motor in the cobra? Well that specially built motor is 95% what came out in the mark VIII in the first place. Cobra is a trim level on the Mustang. Hell, an SS is less of a Camaro than a Cobra is of a Mustang. SLP which is a separate company from GM adds the hood, some suspension stuff, exhaust and ram air. Looks like SVT is all in-house Ford stuff to me. But you never hear anyone complain that the SS is "not a camaro" because the acceleration numbers are not too diferent. I guess the bottom line is, all the people that are part of the SVT team that put some really nice stuff on the Cobra's are in house and are employed by Ford. It is just as much a Mustang as anything else.

 

I am an f-body fan as well, that is why I am here. I have owned 3 of them and am in the middle on this, but this pissing match between the mark VIII community and others is getting silly. A Lincoln is NOT a muscle car or a sports car, Lincoln itself described it as a luxury sport coupe in the same class as a Lexus SC 400 at the time. Being a luxury sport coupe is not a bad thing, but it is what it is.

 

Well said. I consider myself a unbiased observer here since I own both and like Ford and Chevy.

 

Good work Scott and others!

 

WOW!!!

this thread went insane!!!

and i dont run 14.6 anymore

14.000 was my best so i dont think i should even consider this a race

 

wow now, a mark8 is not a muscle car just cuz its made in US doesnt make it a muscle car

it is a luxury car!!!!

a 750 bmw has a v12 with state of art engine that will do mid 12s with no power adders... is it a sports car?

nope

a cl600 TT isnt a sports car either, but it is powerful...

but a SL55 is, and a S55 is, and a E55 is

its just a really hard 'common sense' concept... and since its common sense concept, everyone will have diff opinions =/

 

ONEBADMK8 - Funny you should mention the MM&FF Luxo-barge shootout issue. I have that issue. Your time, and the other Mark VIII times are not impressive, and nowhere near what you claim. Modded Marks running low-mid 14s? - and them claiming most F-bods aren't competition? The 4V Mark debuted in 93, the same year LT1s were introduced in the F-bod, most of which would have no trouble with a Mark. An LS1, forget about it!

I work for a Lincoln/Mercury dealer and drive these cars often. I can tell you that they are not capable of low 14s stock, and certainly not upper 90s either. We have 2 Marks owned by techs here, one is a 94, low miles in real good shape, and runs consistent low 15s around 92-93. The other is a 98 LSC also in excellent shape. Runs high 14s around 93-94 with just some sticky tires, a K&N and flowmaster mufflers.

To further add to the point, a 98 Continental, also owned by a coworker, with me as a passenger will run door to door with a Mark 8 from a 20 punch to 100. Thats almost 300 lbs MORE than the Mark.

 

Nice to see Gene made it in here! Hi Geno! Btw, they banned me from MarkVIII.org for having 6 lines in my sig instead of 4. When I argued that it wasn't 6, but they were reading my comming "Thanks, Eric"at the end as part of the sig, they banned me for dis-respect. The admin of the forum none-the-less.

Ask him if he's come down off of his high-chair yet so I can get back on there and actually give help to the ones on there seeking more power out of the Mark VIIIs.

I would buy from LMS for my Mark VIII, but honestly the prices are quite high for such simple bolt-ons. I can build/tune almost all the work myself (can't widen wheels myself, but I tune my own vehicles), but I guess it comes down to I can either do it or pay the price. And after spending a year on my Cobra, I'm reading to throw in the towel in heavily modifying a car again.

Mark 8: Don't know you, but hope to see you in Nashville sometime!


To answer the original question: stock for stock it will be a very close race, but the T/A should get a fender from the dead and hold it through the stock 118mph speed limiter on the Mark VIII.


I have plans for my Mark VIII, but not for a while. Most likely will end up with a big-bore 5.0L build up I'll put togather from some custom pistons and such, with a lot of spray. Normal tranny/irs/wheel upgrades obviously.

http://forums.modular4v.com/viewtopic.php?t=178

My Cobra is doing fine for answering when I feel the need for speed, sideways at 80mph. It won't be until next Winter if that for the Mark VIII.


To everyone else: The Mark VIII is a lux car with some power. Ok, so when are going to compare the Cady's XLR to a sports car?

Eric
Ps, I had a huge reply typed up for all of the rants here. took too long. Screw it..