heres the situation, i just got my 98 SS manual camaro, then my buddy 4 days later goes out and buys a 06 STI. Im not sure if i can take him and he fells the same way about me. i just have a lid and exhaust and nittos(555)
Hes all stock. we are waiting for him to fully break the car in before racing but in the mean time should i ...
A) Kick back and relax until his car is ready to race?

B) Just practice my launches, and hope he doesn't get to far of a jump on me and reel him in?

C) Hit up the speed shop and start blowin pay checks on upgrades to seal the deal?

 

I think you should be able to get him if you just practice you launches. Even if he does get a awesome launch you should be able to reel him in up top. My experiences with STI's have been that they are pretty much 0-60 cars, but that was the 05's on older, i dont know if they changed anything in the 06 model.

 

Those cars run 8.7 stock inthe eighth with a good driver, so you would need to get a good launch or you will playing catch up....

 

i hope so, hes a cool guy and all but it will be my first race with my LS1 manual, and i would like to start things off on a good foot. I dont want to lose my first race

 

They trap 101-103 mph which wouldn't mean an easy win up top even for an LS1. You need to make sure your car is in top condition with the usual maintenance items (plugs, etc). That way you'll know you're making the most power you can be.

The STi's downfall is its 6spd transmission. 1st is useless in drag racing situations, often resulting in a shift into 2nd gear before you pass the timing lights! Also, it means they shift into fifth at some absurdly low speed like 90.

It's too bad Subaru can't figure out how to space the gears in a 6spd. They think sixth neeeds to be an acceleration gear instead of a nice deep overdrive for the interstate. The 2.5 liter makes plenty of torque; it could carry 5 normal gears and a deep 6th easily, and the car would be both faster and better for cruising too. Leave the close-ratio 6spd for the true rally racers!

 

thanks for the info

 

They more like 105 12.9 13.0 13.1 with good drivers it will be close from dead stop.

 

I would do some free mods and maybe a couple bolt-ons first. Also remember to shed as much weight in the car before the run.

 

I raced a stock 06 STI with a stock 97 Z28 + cutout. We raced on the highway and i won everytime, then when we raced from a dig, i had a crappy launch and he jumped me like 2 cars, and then i was just about to start passing him he shut down right as my front end got to his back bumper like the punk thing to do. Also my car was having a back pressure problem and and i think i burnt a spark plug wire too. But even with those things happening i still could have beat him if we would have kept going instead of him shutting down at 80 on a long empty street.

As far as your race, you should take him easily with an stock LS1 if my LT1 had the potential to.

 

Huh? The fastest time I've ever seen for a stock STi is around 13.4@104, and I've researched the STi A LOT. That's with an awesome launch, which is hard on the tranny. Most times are mid 13's at around 102. . The problem with STi's are that they are extremely easy to mod with no visible changes, so what many think is stock is actually reprogrammed.

Like John M said, most, if any, aren't going to trap over 103. They trap 101-103 and are a mid 13 second car with a good driver.

In order for the STi to beat an LS1 M6, he's going to need a good launch and a short race. The longer the race, or if it's from a roll, the LS1 will win hands down. The LS1 can easily loose the race also. Practice your launch. Try launching from a relatively low RPM and let up fairly rapidly on the clutch. If it bogs, then try a higher RPM launch until you find the RPM that allows you to launch without bogging the engine, but not totally spin the tires either. For me, if I hold 3000 rpm and rapidly lift off the clutch, it's just right. Keep the throttle in the same position until you have decent forward movement and then let 'er rip. It all happens fast and takes some practice.

Dan

 

thanks, yeah i will race him from a roll and from a stand still, i dont want to here," well if we raced from a dig i would win" so i will practice my launching, find that sweet spot and let you guys know the results.

 

13.4 is average for a good driver. High 12s in an STI happen about as often as high 12s with an LS1 F-body, although the 104 trap is about right versus the what, 105-107 for a top LS1 car?

That's with a great launch for the STI driver though.