point taken

 

you will take him. He probably has the B16abcd or whatever motor which is around 160 crank hp. Most cars with those motors are in the high 15's. You got to remember that ricers usually will make their car seem faster than it actually is. When their buddies say how fast it is they will make it seem faster. I dont know how many times ive heard "you wanna race a 10 sec honda?" Alot of these guys have never been to the track so they know little about what some cars can do. He probably raced an ailing lt1 with bad plugs/wires or opti and beat it then called it cammed cuz he heard it surging and mistaken that with lope. just my .02

 

^ No, alot of motor swap cars are easy low 14 high 13 second cars with little to no bolt ons.

But I dont see how the thing oculd weigh that.

Race him from a dig.

And YellaVette, you cant figure it out like that comparing it to a 3xxRWHP F-Body. You gotta look at the power range of that motor. Realistically, a F-body is competitive in a race launching a 2000RPM's and will pull hard enough even at 2000RPMs to break the tires loost if you drop it to the floor. The powerband on a V8 is so much wider that from a stop, you will kill this car, and just about any other FWD car with an average driver. Look at how much fatter the TQ curve is for a LT1 versus a Honda 1.XL, any of them, even the Vtecs and stuff. No replacement for displacement. Especially from a stop.

 

I gotta disagree with you there. Take the Lotus Elise as a perfect example of what I'm talking about. It weighs 2000 lbs and has the 180 hp engine from the Celica. This car runs 0-60 in 4.9 and the 1320 in the low 13's @105. Now subtract another 600 lbs (should add about 6 tenths and 6 mph) and add another 30 hp (3 tenths and 3 mph) and you've got a very low 12 second car running around 115 mph. It should kill the Fbody if it truly does have the power to weight ratio claimed.

 

i agree.....he should be running in the 13's on spray with that weight....consistantly

 

im considering to get gears for this race to.... any insight???? or still walking me?

 

that hatch does not weigh 1400 lbs. stock they weigh about 2200.

 

If the guys only running low 14's, why bother?

 

Exactly. And if you race from a dig, make sure you dont blow it off the line...which im sure he will do cause a light weight fwd car is going to be hard as hell to hook up.

gl

 

Ehh, Yellavette, the point I was trying to make is that the two motors have totally different power bands. From a stop the V8 car for sure has the advantage. Those kind of engines like to be revved.

And I dont see any way possible that the car weighs that little, and can be street driven. No mechanic would sticker it, even if it was someones best friend. They know its a death trap and a cop magnet. I dont see how a street car could be that stripped down.

 

your gonna win, don't listen to the ricers and there outrageous claims. either way race him and find out.

 

just be weary and dont be suprised if you loose. i honestly think youll win but ive shut down LT1's with more mods than you with my Cobalt SS, NEVER UNDERESTIMATE any CAR, YOU JUST NEVER KNOW!

 

If its just an LS swap with a 50 shot you should have no problem unless its completely stripped and on some sort of tire (DR, Slick). My car has no problem beating an LS swap and the 50 shot wouldn't be enough to make up the difference. Just don't completely blow the launch and you should be alright.

 

i think u should be ok.....this kid sounds full of it.....no way it weighs 1400lbs i bet it will be a good race but u should take him.....i would race him out of curiosity...

 

Wow, it took me a while to figure out that we're talking about a Civic.

Race him every which way you can, but only put money on the race from a stop. You have to do a LOT to make a FWD hook, and you have to do a LOT to make an LS motor (that's a DOHC 1.8L, btw) make any power down low. You have a huge advantage off the line, and you probably have enough power to hang on to that advantage.

My only advice is that you get him to meet you at a nearby track on a T&T night for the runs, so that you actually have timeslips to compare. When there's money on the line, don't screw around on the street.