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Old Nov 25, 2006 | 09:47 PM
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Cast Steel Cranks?

Would a Scat 9000 series or Eagle non-twist cast steel crank be alright for a 383 w/ 11.5 compression? Estimate 600 fwhp on a alittle nitrous, at the most 150..? Any info would help.. Thanks
Old Nov 25, 2006 | 10:21 PM
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Those Chinese castings work great right up to the point that they break in half. Normally at that point it’s time for a new engine, sometimes if you’re lucky you can save the block. At 600 HP, I’d choose a good forged piece.
Old Nov 25, 2006 | 10:33 PM
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Just say no to cheap cranks!

I would not dare to push that much on a cast crank.
Old Nov 26, 2006 | 01:15 PM
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A lot of this depends on the rest of the parts and the bottom end. If you have a good block, lighter rods and pistons and assemble everything well a cast steel crank can take more of a beating than a stock crank.

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Old Nov 26, 2006 | 01:18 PM
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kind of a thread hijack, but still on topic
say if the origional poster was to do forged pistons, forged rods, and a cast steel crank....he would be safe to do what he wants, correct?
Old Nov 26, 2006 | 02:48 PM
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Over the last couple of years I have seen three of the overseas cast cranks break in half in a great running engine. All were using light weight pistons and in the 550 to 600 HP range.

Under 500 HP, no worry. Over 500 HP it's a crap shoot, it might last a year maybe two, but when it breaks it's not pretty.
Old Nov 26, 2006 | 06:55 PM
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Not me, no way. For a mild build, OK (politics aside). In spite of what you read on the 'net, a 600hp smallblock is far from a mild build.

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Old Nov 26, 2006 | 07:03 PM
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Why not just get a forged crank? I just put an Eagle light weight Forged crank and rods in mine. It hopefully will be a 550 hp motor and the forged crank will hold up just fine for that power level. I know the Eagle stuff is China made but I went with them anyway. Reasonably priced and will get the job done.

I dont think a cast crank in a 600hp nitrous motor would be a good idea either. No matter what brand.
Old Jan 2, 2007 | 11:33 PM
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If I went with a Scat 9000 pro comp cast steel crank, Scat stock replacement 4140 forged I beam rods, 4 bolt conversion and Mahle Forged pistons would it be ok to run on a 355 turning 6800 rpms and 430 n/a rwhp and 500 n20 rwhp? Or is it a must to go Scat Forged Crank? This also is a street car, and not gonna see nitrous weekly..

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Old Jan 3, 2007 | 12:09 AM
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As Rich said 600hp is one thing and should use a forged crank, for what you are asking NA it's doable but with N2O anything can break.

Detonation, and heavy parts with RPM are going to kill a bottom end faster than anything.

Bret
Old Jan 3, 2007 | 12:10 AM
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Why in the world would you spend that much on the parts you've listed, making sure to get forged everything else, and NOT get a forged crank? Is there some voodoo reason your not fessing up to here? Put a solid crank in there and spray the crap out of it. Scat makes a very nice forged 4340 piece that will hold 600HP all day. I've got one spinning around in my stroker now with zero issues.

Why take the chance?????

Dave C.
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