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Old Feb 18, 2005 | 06:27 AM
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I've got everything from traction control to no low end torque to put my cat back on and ill be able to etc etc.

1998 Camaro 3.8L V6
Flowmaster Exhaust
No cat (straight pipe)
JET PCM Power Chip


Why cant I burnout if I could in my 1994 3.4L camaro? Someone please tell me whats up once and for all if any of you guys know.

I'll describe the situation:
I hold down my brake and put it in 1st gear (automatic transmission) and slam on the gas, it goes to about 2000-2500 and it just stops there and wont go any higher. Is this a rev limiter or is this the fact that I have a straight pipe and not a lot of low end tq and back pressure?

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Old Feb 18, 2005 | 09:32 AM
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The Reason the RPM's will not go any higher is because the RPM range you have reached is the stall of your TQ converter.

I don't see why you can't spin the tires in your car. My 1990 Beretta will squawk them pretty good if I really jump on it, and it has 120k on it.

EDIT:

I see you have the 3.8, when I first read, I thought you said you have the 3.4. I *really* don't see what you couldn't, most other Auto guys don't have any problems...

Maybe you have a really really sad gear ratio?
Old Feb 18, 2005 | 09:49 AM
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Heres an idea put it in drive instead of 1st gear.
Old Feb 18, 2005 | 10:20 AM
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I think that if i get a hi flow cat ill be able to. Increasing my backpressure with a cat should make my stall converter run higher correct? I'm not sure, also when I rev in park i can only get up to 4000 rpm's. Is that my stall converter or rev limiter? And yea, I've tried it in 1st, 2nd, drive, and overdrive, i cant burnout in any of them. I could smoke in my 3.4, and it had a new cat on it... My car should have the stock gears which are higher then the gears in the 3.4 anyways, so that couldnt be it. I guess its the cat, ill try a few things this afternoon and if i still cant burnout ill have to get a cat, even tho ill lose horsepower , in thoery i should be a lot quicker off the line.
Old Feb 18, 2005 | 12:18 PM
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No, this has NOTHING to do with the lack of a cat. The 3.8's love to breath, and the backpressure idea is taken way too far.

The reason that your car will only rev to 4000 rpm in park is because the 3.8 has a park/neutral rev limiter built into the ECM.

Your car should be able to do a burnout with no trouble, even if you are stuck with the 3.08 gears.

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Old Feb 18, 2005 | 12:20 PM
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Originally Posted by Tru2Chevy
No, this has NOTHING to do with the lack of a cat. The 3.8's love to breath, and the backpressure idea is taken way too far.

The reason that your car will only rev to 4000 rpm in park is because the 3.8 has a park/neutral rev limiter built into the ECM.

Your car should be able to do a burnout with no trouble, even if you are stuck with the 3.08 gears.
Unfortunately it can't. I don't know what it is.. but I can't either...
Old Feb 18, 2005 | 12:25 PM
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Unfortunately it can't. I don't know what it is.. but I can't either...
Well I don't know what the deal is with your cars, but even my '85 2.8/A4 would spin up the tires with no problems.

I know plenty of v6 4th gen cars that can spin them up easily, even on drag radials. I have no idea what is stopping you guys from doing the same.

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Old Feb 18, 2005 | 12:40 PM
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Re: Not able to burnout? 3.8L Auto

Well i dont know, but my 94 3.4L V6 could spin the crap outta the tires and smoke it up with no problem..

Now my 3.8 cant, it seems odd.
Old Feb 18, 2005 | 03:34 PM
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It stalls in 1st / 2nd / Drive / OD when i hold down the brake. The reason I'm almost positive i dont have enough back pressure is because even when I hold the brake, rev it to 2500 rpm, and let go of the brake easily, and even all the way for that matter, my tires wont spin at all, and off the line its slower then my 3.4. I'm almost positive if i put a hi flow cat on i'd be able to.
Old Feb 18, 2005 | 10:08 PM
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Not having a cat is better, it would not stop you from burning out. If you can't burnout something else is wrong maybe your tranny.
Old Feb 19, 2005 | 07:33 AM
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lol man, how would my tranny effect a burnout? its in first gear, has nothing to do with the tranny o.O

My tranny fluid was just flush and the JET PCM Chip makes me shift great.. I dont think its that my friend.
Old Feb 19, 2005 | 02:24 PM
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Re: Not able to burnout? 3.8L Auto

I have a completely stock 96 3.8 and i have no problem smoking them at all, try releasing the e-brake???
Old Feb 19, 2005 | 04:28 PM
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Were you able to burnout before the chip.
Old Feb 19, 2005 | 04:56 PM
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Re: Not able to burnout? 3.8L Auto

Couple things.

98+ Cars have rear disc brakes which hold the car back more then the drums
3800 torque peaks higher then the 3.4L
234/ 245 tires can girp good.

Mine with the 3:08 gear takes alot of initial work to get it to burn out, I really dont bother and I cant think of the last time I have done it.
Old Feb 19, 2005 | 11:12 PM
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Re: Not able to burnout? 3.8L Auto

it could be a suspension problem. i had problems with my 3.4 not being able to burn out, felt unferpowered, but after i replaced the lca's and replaced my transmission mount, it worked fine. ps. the transmission mount was the cause of it all. the tranny shifted into a weak spot and was actually not tranfering the power properly.



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