some were callign for rumsfeld for resignation about the iraq fiasco, i think bush should resign. i too think its a bad idea for the US to get out of iraq before its stablized. i mean its casue of them its in the state that it is now. and i think if saddam is let free he will come to power again. he should be executed. wasnt there a report saying that saddam and his assosiated were going to be tried in iraq?

 

Bush is a necessary Evil at this time as is Rumsfield, if he were to resign then Kerry would get elected and we WOULD be pulling out of Iraq.

I heard that they are sending Sadamn back to Iraq to be tried but I SERIOUSLY doubt that the US is not behind it all to make sure it goes which way they want. It is more of an appeasement but at the same time that is the same reason everyone over there hates us so its a lose lose situation. I say let him loose somewhere in the South the good ole boys will take car of him.

Anyways off subject I sent you a PM on the Harland GP 93 Formula.

 

it is just one big mess that bush has gotten himself into, i wonder if he will ever live this down. makes me wonder how things would be if gore had won.


pm replied

 

Gore won & I'll belive it with everyone else, he didn't want to go to war & that I'll belive aswell, that wasn't acceptable so BUSH took his place.

As for the beheading video, it made me sick, but you know what? I'm sure there is more of this going on we never see & the way things are turning out & how BUSH, congress, Rumsfield is acting, only raises more suspecion as to we don't know the half of the story & why this is all happening. That is why I belive the people & myself would just prefer for all this to end, noone wants to cheer for US anymore because as it stands, too much is being hidden, too many lives are being lost for no reason, making descisions upon what you see on CNN is just not happening anymore. Stop the war, leave while we're ahead before something we'll really regret happens, as it stands its clear that US has no control as to what will or will not happen as long as the war is still on.

Matt.

 

but were not ahead, no ones ahead, the only thing the US accomplished was capturing saddam. now if there leaving and they captured him i dont know why there gonna just turn him over. hes gonna come to power again, then hes gonna make the US sorry, i mean they killed his sons, and hes got nothign to lose. i think if there leavign iraq they leave with him and send him off to some jail or just execute him.

 

Do you think Sadam will come to power or if he does he is not just a figurehead?? The problem is that even if he had a heart attack tomorrow and we pulled out someone just like him would take over?

Matt I don't think there was a conspiricy theory on Bush because he wanted to start the war.... Now the election may have been fixed or whatever but not for that reason. I will agree with alot from what you said about what we know and don't know. We JUST like the middle east are filled with propaganda all the time. Thats why watching the news you have to filter everything and realize there are two sides to everything.

But an isolationist approach at this point is stupid and history shows that, my biggest fear is that we will get someone else into power and they will pull out regardless of what history has shown.

You think the middle east is pissed now what happens after the US in its arrogance self bombs the crap out of everything then pulls out and leaves the country its education, health care, security, etc in SHAMBLES. Talk about PISSED there is no easy solution, but you can't tear down a political structure and just leave. Human nature is messed up I don't care what country you live in. Topple the whitehouse and let a free for all happen and SEE what would happen to the US, I don't think it would be pretty.

 

But how can you justify executing him? On what grounds? Certainly not on US law.

 

That is the problem isn't it???? Its a bad situation I think the Iraqi people should choose but then if they are like let him free and rule the country then what do you do???

 

no no law, i mean bush has had his way so far invading afganastan, invading iraq, may as well lock up saddam or kill him otherwise invading iraq was pointless. hell invading iraq with out UN support was against some international law im sure.

bobby, your right, if not him then someone will take that dictator spot im sure. but it should be the US/british responsibility to rebuld iraq. they went in there and blew up chunks of it.

i too dont believe everything on cnn, bbc is better for providign both sides of the story. if you have satelite then you get to see how the two news stations potray a story.

 

BBC is the bomb!!! I love it when I'm in Australia, I spend hours just watching the news. Its amazing how much more informational it is there and worldly. The US is still an Isolationist country how else do you explain local News giving weather for Seattle and Anchorage but then there is just a big Gray Glob for Canada??

 

Viet-Iraqi anyone. this is what is seems its going to come to. just a bunch of wasted lives. nothing is going to get better over there. not enough people want it. even if 80% of the people want the change that other 20% is enough to stop it.

 

I believe in the american cause of freedom and liberty for all but at what cost and is this a winnable war?

 

never was a winnable war, all bush wanted was saddam out and oil production from iraq. the WMD was all a allaborate scam.

 

No WMD found yet and they wont find them in Iraq. Apparently all their labs are mobile rolling on big trailers. Scientist are being held hostage too as one got away and spilled the beans on the project. Probably long gone across the Syrian or Iran border. Everybody new months in advance of the american invasion, what was Iraq supposed to do, just sit there and let their research be found, no way. Whether or not there are any WMD you can bet the terrorists are licking their chops at the possabilities. This is the time to come down hard on terrorists who kill innocent people everyday.

 

If the US doesnt police the world who will ?? Not the UN there way to politically correct and sometimes you have to get your hands dirty . . . . . Its impossible to make all people happy all the time, "bad people" have freinds and allies too . . . .

We could not ask for a better neighbour than the usa imo