Window switches and retard boxes
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Re: Window switches and retard boxes
Originally Posted by Z28_95RIDE
Thanks Chip! It looks like my 95 will need the 8876 MSD harness and CamaroSS30thAnn will need the 8877 but I will have to take a look for the dual connection on mine.
As for your question CamaroSS30thAnn, it seem that the integrated window switch can be used to enable the n20 arming switch but someone else will have to give an experienced answer. I'm really glad you started this thread btw.
As for your question CamaroSS30thAnn, it seem that the integrated window switch can be used to enable the n20 arming switch but someone else will have to give an experienced answer. I'm really glad you started this thread btw.


right one?
http://store.summitracing.com/partde...0&autoview=sku
i assume mines a single connector?
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Re: Window switches and retard boxes
Originally Posted by CamaroSS30thAnn
so the mallory 685 and msd wirig harness 8877 and its straigh up plug and play eh
right one?
http://store.summitracing.com/partde...0&autoview=sku
i assume mines a single connector?

right one?
http://store.summitracing.com/partde...0&autoview=sku
i assume mines a single connector?
Re: Window switches and retard boxes
Wait one. Here's the link to the coil; http://shbox.com/coil/coil.html as Rob comes through again....
I will have to wait until tomorrow to get a good look at it though. Too dark now and I have to determine if access is from the bottom or top. Really sure it is from the top. I think I need to remove some of my CAI ducting. I need to figure out exactly what is meant by dual connection.
I will have to wait until tomorrow to get a good look at it though. Too dark now and I have to determine if access is from the bottom or top. Really sure it is from the top. I think I need to remove some of my CAI ducting. I need to figure out exactly what is meant by dual connection.
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Re: Window switches and retard boxes
Originally Posted by Z28_95RIDE
Wait one. Here's the link to the coil; http://shbox.com/coil/coil.html as Rob comes through again....
I will have to wait until tomorrow to get a good look at it though. Too dark now and I have to determine if access is from the bottom or top. Really sure it is from the top. I think I need to remove some of my CAI ducting. I need to figure out exactly what is meant by dual connection.
I will have to wait until tomorrow to get a good look at it though. Too dark now and I have to determine if access is from the bottom or top. Really sure it is from the top. I think I need to remove some of my CAI ducting. I need to figure out exactly what is meant by dual connection.
summit websites says the 8876 is for vehciles 86 or 87-95 and the 8877 for 96-2000
i took a jump and ordered the mallory 685 and the msd 8877 tonight, i hope all works out for me
now heres one more question , how does the box know when to retard the timing and when not to , say im not spraying will it still retard or not???
Re: Window switches and retard boxes
The box has an extra wire lead comming out of it...and "only" when that wire gets 12 volts applied to it, the retard circuit will then be active, and will retard the timing to where you have it set.......the nitrous arming switch is a good location for it.....
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Re: Window switches and retard boxes
Originally Posted by Joe B
The box has an extra wire lead comming out of it...and "only" when that wire gets 12 volts applied to it, the retard circuit will then be active, and will retard the timing to where you have it set.......the nitrous arming switch is a good location for it.....
cant wait to get my car inspected and my buddy has time ,i have a lot of work to do
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Re: Window switches and retard boxes
Originally Posted by Z28_95RIDE
Please post your results and observations. I'm interested in your project here. Good luck and I hope everything goes well.
Re: Window switches and retard boxes
Here's something I found here that might prove useful as you connect the Mallory into the MSD harness:
Connecting MSD harness to Mallory Harness MSD to Mallory:
(MSD)Red to (MALLORY)Red
(MSD)Black to (MALLORY)Black
(MSD)White to (MALLORY)Green
(MSD)Orange to (MALLORY)Yellow
Obviously I can't verify the correctness of this but just to let you know there are some wire color differences to deal with.
Connecting MSD harness to Mallory Harness MSD to Mallory:
(MSD)Red to (MALLORY)Red
(MSD)Black to (MALLORY)Black
(MSD)White to (MALLORY)Green
(MSD)Orange to (MALLORY)Yellow
Obviously I can't verify the correctness of this but just to let you know there are some wire color differences to deal with.
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Re: Window switches and retard boxes
Originally Posted by Z28_95RIDE
Here's something I found here that might prove useful as you connect the Mallory into the MSD harness:
Connecting MSD harness to Mallory Harness MSD to Mallory:
(MSD)Red to (MALLORY)Red
(MSD)Black to (MALLORY)Black
(MSD)White to (MALLORY)Green
(MSD)Orange to (MALLORY)Yellow
Obviously I can't verify the correctness of this but just to let you know there are some wire color differences to deal with.
Connecting MSD harness to Mallory Harness MSD to Mallory:
(MSD)Red to (MALLORY)Red
(MSD)Black to (MALLORY)Black
(MSD)White to (MALLORY)Green
(MSD)Orange to (MALLORY)Yellow
Obviously I can't verify the correctness of this but just to let you know there are some wire color differences to deal with.
Re: Window switches and retard boxes
I use the Mallory 685 myself. It is the perfect box for any application, N20 or boost. It has a boost retard, along with a single retard, the built in window switch, and the best is a secondary retard for launch or burn outs.
I personally wired this direct. Hard wired using solder and heat shrink. Mounting position was located in the glove box.
http://home.comcast.net/~owensracing/P1000074.JPG
Sorta a crappy pic, but you get the jest. I made an Aluminum plate and mounted it with double stick tape.
If you have any question on mounting or wiring i will try to help.
hit my email at owensracing@comcast.net
Thanks,
Jeff
I personally wired this direct. Hard wired using solder and heat shrink. Mounting position was located in the glove box.
http://home.comcast.net/~owensracing/P1000074.JPG
Sorta a crappy pic, but you get the jest. I made an Aluminum plate and mounted it with double stick tape.
If you have any question on mounting or wiring i will try to help.
hit my email at owensracing@comcast.net
Thanks,
Jeff
Re: Window switches and retard boxes
Originally Posted by Z28_95RIDE
Here's something I found here that might prove useful as you connect the Mallory into the MSD harness:
Connecting MSD harness to Mallory Harness MSD to Mallory:
(MSD)Red to (MALLORY)Red
(MSD)Black to (MALLORY)Black
(MSD)White to (MALLORY)Green
(MSD)Orange to (MALLORY)Yellow
Connecting MSD harness to Mallory Harness MSD to Mallory:
(MSD)Red to (MALLORY)Red
(MSD)Black to (MALLORY)Black
(MSD)White to (MALLORY)Green
(MSD)Orange to (MALLORY)Yellow
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Re: Window switches and retard boxes
Originally Posted by Owens Racing™
I use the Mallory 685 myself. It is the perfect box for any application, N20 or boost. It has a boost retard, along with a single retard, the built in window switch, and the best is a secondary retard for launch or burn outs.
I personally wired this direct. Hard wired using solder and heat shrink. Mounting position was located in the glove box.
http://home.comcast.net/~owensracing/P1000074.JPG
Sorta a crappy pic, but you get the jest. I made an Aluminum plate and mounted it with double stick tape.
If you have any question on mounting or wiring i will try to help.
hit my email at owensracing@comcast.net
Thanks,
Jeff
I personally wired this direct. Hard wired using solder and heat shrink. Mounting position was located in the glove box.
http://home.comcast.net/~owensracing/P1000074.JPG
Sorta a crappy pic, but you get the jest. I made an Aluminum plate and mounted it with double stick tape.
If you have any question on mounting or wiring i will try to help.
hit my email at owensracing@comcast.net
Thanks,
Jeff
Re: Window switches and retard boxes
Originally Posted by bow94z
Where did you find this at?
Re: Window switches and retard boxes
One nice thing about using the msd harness - if you run into problems down the road and need to troubleshoot to see if the ignition box is working for whatever reason, you can unplug the msd harness and plug in the stock harness, bypassing your ignition box, without rewiring.
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