Is N2O socially acceptable?
Originally posted by rskrause
Modified car + boost + nitrous =
Modified car + boost + nitrous =
Whenever some says should I go heads/cam, supercharger or nitrous...I say YES!
I think the best thing to do is find someone with nitrous and get them to give you a ride. I used to be one of those guys who thought nitrous was cheating and for people who couldnt build a fast car. Then I went for a ride in a friends 86 pro street camaro. He ran it out on the motor cut a u turn and then looked at me and said "This is Nitrous" damn car never seemed to stop pulling on the bottle. His car ran 10.4's on pump gas. I went out 2 weeks later and bought a NOS Cheater System. That was about 5 years ago.
It must be socially acceptable becasue its hard to find a car not running nitrous anymore! A few weeks back I went to the local Saturday night hang out and saw a little racing. There is a guy they call "motorhead" that has a 2400 pound Maverirck with a very stout small block. His car is 99% race car(lexan windows, fiberghlass body parts, etc.) and he usually does pretty good at the street races, but the other night he got beat 3 times in a row by a 98 LS1 Firebird with a few bolt ons and the bottle. The FIrebird is the guys daily driver and still has exhasut manifolds on it! Ole motorhead was stunned to say the least and instantly started with the excuses. I have seen the Firebird run some very low 11's at the track with a pretty mild combantion. To me nitrous is just another part of going fast. Why not take advantage of all of the technology available? Thanks
Nitrous? The more I get into it, the more I love the stuff! While I can appreciate the "purity" of an NA setup, I am much more enamored of wild combos. The faster car is the faster car in my book, no matter how it gets the job done.
I am planning a "real" race car to use for match racing and general screwing around. What I am contemplating is a big block car with a centrifugal blower, electronic FI, and nitrous. Just to be different and to have a bunch of stuff to screw around with and optimize. In the end it will be a much more interesting way to go really fast than the traditional Roots blower and alcohol route and perhaps less expensive.
Rich Krause
I am planning a "real" race car to use for match racing and general screwing around. What I am contemplating is a big block car with a centrifugal blower, electronic FI, and nitrous. Just to be different and to have a bunch of stuff to screw around with and optimize. In the end it will be a much more interesting way to go really fast than the traditional Roots blower and alcohol route and perhaps less expensive.
Rich Krause
I believe that N20 is acceptable primarily because it is becoming more and more readily available to the open majority of people and now is becoming known to be safe on most engines if done right. I dont have a problem with it but look at it as just another mod in the long list of cutting edge mods.
just my .02$
-JOhn
just my .02$
-JOhn
Ive got a few friends who are addicted to the Juice.. one runs a dual stage 100/100 wet&dry (200) shot on his heads/cam LS1 (1/4= 126mph).. stock bottom end. One of my girls runs a 150 shot on her bolt on LS1 (1/4=118mph). My other friend runs a 100 shot on his cammed/ bolt on LS1 (1/4= 120mph)... and the list goes on.. Got a few LT1 users in there too...
Basically they all went through one of our other friends who sprays a lot and spent time on the dyno tuning the nitrous in..
Its all about the tune and the set up.
The initial torque spike is whats hard on engines... So people run dual stages 1 kicks in at maybe 3500rpms and the other at 4700rpms.. Also the nitrous is added progressively... kinda feels like the turbo pull to avoid that heavy torque spike. Doing things like these, pulling enough timing, and making sure your fuel and ignition components are up to par will ensure your car runs for a long time...
Basically they all went through one of our other friends who sprays a lot and spent time on the dyno tuning the nitrous in..
Its all about the tune and the set up.
The initial torque spike is whats hard on engines... So people run dual stages 1 kicks in at maybe 3500rpms and the other at 4700rpms.. Also the nitrous is added progressively... kinda feels like the turbo pull to avoid that heavy torque spike. Doing things like these, pulling enough timing, and making sure your fuel and ignition components are up to par will ensure your car runs for a long time...
your kidding
Nos kits are designed for total safety unless you go crazy.. you through a 125-150 dry shot on you car..and it will be unbeleivable.. for the money with lid and cat back..
nothing strikes Fear into any import than a ls1 with nos.. the Ls1 responds very wll to noss..
i don't want to rag on lt1 owner cause thats a great engine.. but our off nos dyno .. my buddy's 96 ss and my 01 ws6 were almost identical.. 9 he had alot of mods.. he ran a 200 wet ,i ran a 125 shot dry.. repeatedly it wasn't thatclose.. about 3-5 cars every time
and what wa most fun is you only stress your motor when you need too.. to me that make nos numer 1
and aside from a stall the most costeffective mod..now if thats sociall accepted.. whocares.. why ould you worry waht othersthink
since everyone is doing head/cam/ headers.. turbo.. or Supercharging.. you can laug for the cost not only do you squash them..but yu spent so much les les.. yes its socially acceptable.. ask the RAF pilot in WW2 when the Mecshersmitz were using it
just do it.. its asy to revrse the dry it.. upto 125-150 hp what would that cost you jn other mods.?. 2 1/2 hours later and your a cobra killer Zo6 killer.. fun yo be so happy youll **** yourself
remebr using dry.. stock maf internerls and dont forget the plugs
have fun
nothing strikes Fear into any import than a ls1 with nos.. the Ls1 responds very wll to noss..
i don't want to rag on lt1 owner cause thats a great engine.. but our off nos dyno .. my buddy's 96 ss and my 01 ws6 were almost identical.. 9 he had alot of mods.. he ran a 200 wet ,i ran a 125 shot dry.. repeatedly it wasn't thatclose.. about 3-5 cars every time
and what wa most fun is you only stress your motor when you need too.. to me that make nos numer 1
and aside from a stall the most costeffective mod..now if thats sociall accepted.. whocares.. why ould you worry waht othersthink
since everyone is doing head/cam/ headers.. turbo.. or Supercharging.. you can laug for the cost not only do you squash them..but yu spent so much les les.. yes its socially acceptable.. ask the RAF pilot in WW2 when the Mecshersmitz were using it
just do it.. its asy to revrse the dry it.. upto 125-150 hp what would that cost you jn other mods.?. 2 1/2 hours later and your a cobra killer Zo6 killer.. fun yo be so happy youll **** yourself
remebr using dry.. stock maf internerls and dont forget the plugs
have fun
Re: your kidding
Originally posted by WSman6
Nos kits are designed for total safety unless you go crazy.. you through a 125-150 dry shot on you car..and it will be unbeleivable.. for the money with lid and cat back..
nothing strikes Fear into any import than a ls1 with nos.. the Ls1 responds very wll to noss..
i don't want to rag on lt1 owner cause thats a great engine.. but our off nos dyno .. my buddy's 96 ss and my 01 ws6 were almost identical.. 9 he had alot of mods.. he ran a 200 wet ,i ran a 125 shot dry.. repeatedly it wasn't thatclose.. about 3-5 cars every time
and what wa most fun is you only stress your motor when you need too.. to me that make nos numer 1
and aside from a stall the most costeffective mod..now if thats sociall accepted.. whocares.. why ould you worry waht othersthink
since everyone is doing head/cam/ headers.. turbo.. or Supercharging.. you can laug for the cost not only do you squash them..but yu spent so much les les.. yes its socially acceptable.. ask the RAF pilot in WW2 when the Mecshersmitz were using it
just do it.. its asy to revrse the dry it.. upto 125-150 hp what would that cost you jn other mods.?. 2 1/2 hours later and your a cobra killer Zo6 killer.. fun yo be so happy youll **** yourself
remebr using dry.. stock maf internerls and dont forget the plugs
have fun
Nos kits are designed for total safety unless you go crazy.. you through a 125-150 dry shot on you car..and it will be unbeleivable.. for the money with lid and cat back..
nothing strikes Fear into any import than a ls1 with nos.. the Ls1 responds very wll to noss..
i don't want to rag on lt1 owner cause thats a great engine.. but our off nos dyno .. my buddy's 96 ss and my 01 ws6 were almost identical.. 9 he had alot of mods.. he ran a 200 wet ,i ran a 125 shot dry.. repeatedly it wasn't thatclose.. about 3-5 cars every time
and what wa most fun is you only stress your motor when you need too.. to me that make nos numer 1
and aside from a stall the most costeffective mod..now if thats sociall accepted.. whocares.. why ould you worry waht othersthink
since everyone is doing head/cam/ headers.. turbo.. or Supercharging.. you can laug for the cost not only do you squash them..but yu spent so much les les.. yes its socially acceptable.. ask the RAF pilot in WW2 when the Mecshersmitz were using it
just do it.. its asy to revrse the dry it.. upto 125-150 hp what would that cost you jn other mods.?. 2 1/2 hours later and your a cobra killer Zo6 killer.. fun yo be so happy youll **** yourself
remebr using dry.. stock maf internerls and dont forget the plugs
have fun
I think it's all an intelligence factor.
I've seen a kid who had a nitrous kit on an EFI car that was pretty much just a "push the red button" thing. No window switch, no WOT switch, no FPSS, just a button that would trip the solenoids.
Just too many guys out there that don't realize the nature of the mod bug: HP = $$$. Cut too many corners in the money department, and your car will turn around and bite you in the ***
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I've seen a kid who had a nitrous kit on an EFI car that was pretty much just a "push the red button" thing. No window switch, no WOT switch, no FPSS, just a button that would trip the solenoids.
Just too many guys out there that don't realize the nature of the mod bug: HP = $$$. Cut too many corners in the money department, and your car will turn around and bite you in the ***
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Sorry about being unclear
Yes its very Socially acceptable..
i went with the aibox 5177 Kit.. i used twin 10# bottles monted right on folded down rear seat.. i did however paint the bottle balck and i do admit the twin look looks very potent.
i also used a progressive controller..
you look in and it looks like twin jet engine are eady and waitng
oh on the prevous..
The German used NOS in WW2 for high altitude performance.. and i beleive as they downed many RAF aircraft.. it became Socially feared..
Lastly you have a LS1.. you need only1 25 .. trust me.. and that reqire no windows.. or you can skp the WOT switch.. so long as it set up pre Maf..
yo safe..
you can cut crners seller what to sell you extra.. like a purge.. please.. before i run i use the Nos first ad thats the purge..
the progressive cntroller is very cool.. and for someone like me with a Stall.. makes life livable ..and i can go upto 150 for a few moment and have it stabilize back at 125..
Happy hunting
i went with the aibox 5177 Kit.. i used twin 10# bottles monted right on folded down rear seat.. i did however paint the bottle balck and i do admit the twin look looks very potent.
i also used a progressive controller..
you look in and it looks like twin jet engine are eady and waitng
oh on the prevous..
The German used NOS in WW2 for high altitude performance.. and i beleive as they downed many RAF aircraft.. it became Socially feared..
Lastly you have a LS1.. you need only1 25 .. trust me.. and that reqire no windows.. or you can skp the WOT switch.. so long as it set up pre Maf..
yo safe..
you can cut crners seller what to sell you extra.. like a purge.. please.. before i run i use the Nos first ad thats the purge..
the progressive cntroller is very cool.. and for someone like me with a Stall.. makes life livable ..and i can go upto 150 for a few moment and have it stabilize back at 125..
Happy hunting
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