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keeping bottle temperture up?

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Old Dec 11, 2003 | 10:34 PM
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keeping bottle temperture up?

how do you keep it a 900-1000 psi ? i barely bought a nos pressure guage and found out that i was running at 350 psi? no wonder that 100 shot felt like ****???
Old Dec 11, 2003 | 10:50 PM
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Bottle heater.

Need a bottle heater..
Old Dec 11, 2003 | 11:08 PM
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bottle isnt a requirement it's a necessity,especially this time of year.
Old Dec 12, 2003 | 05:02 AM
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The "complete" kits the nitrous companies sell are really far from complete. To safely and effectively use N2O there are three major components they fail to include. A window switch, bottle heater, and pressure gauge are all needed. I guess they don't include them so they can advertise an artificially low price.

Anyway, as others have said, a bottle heater is needed.

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Old Dec 12, 2003 | 10:26 AM
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Re: keeping bottle temperture up?

Originally posted by ram air camaro
how do you keep it a 900-1000 psi ? i barely bought a nos pressure guage and found out that i was running at 350 psi? no wonder that 100 shot felt like ****???
At that pressure, you were probably getting about a 40 horse shot, pig-rich no less! Cold is like kryptonite to bottle pressure.
Old Dec 12, 2003 | 11:42 AM
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On the common 10# tank, how long would it take to warm up (understanding the varience in ambient temperature).
Old Dec 12, 2003 | 11:51 AM
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On the common 10# tank, how long would it take to warm up (understanding the varience in ambient temperature).
On a chilly fall day here (~50F) it will take 10-15 minutes to get the pressure up to 950-1000psi, which is where I run. On a warm summer day more like 5-10 minutes as best as I recall. Never paid too much attention to the time, just checked the pressure every 5 minutes or so. Once it's warm it really takes quite a while to cool down. So before subsequent runs it's just a couple of minutes.

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Old Dec 12, 2003 | 12:03 PM
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You deffinetly need a bottle heater. I live in florida and i use one. The automatic bottle heater is great it comes on and off automaticly which keeps bottle pressure right around 1000psi. You do still want the gauge though. I wouldnt trust the auto valve to always be perfect.
Old Dec 15, 2003 | 08:38 PM
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very good info guys i guess i'll go with a automatic bottle heater, thanks allot
Old Dec 16, 2003 | 07:18 AM
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I heard a good way to see the temp. is to use a fish tank thermometer, the sticky kind that you stick on. I have one and it works good and cheap too! You stick it on the upper 1/3 of the bottle.


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Old Dec 16, 2003 | 08:15 AM
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Here's the N2O Temp vs. Pressure data from the NOS website, with a few interpolated values:

TEMP--PRESSURE
degF------psi

32 ----- 460
40 ----- 520
50 ----- 590
60 ----- 675
70 ----- 760
79 ----- 850
80 ----- 865
83 ----- 900
87 ----- 950
91 ----- 1000
97 ----- 1069
100 --- 1100

Flow reduction due to pressure is proportional to the square root of the pressure ratio.... e.g. drop the pressure from 950psi to 800psi:

(800 / 950)^0.5 = (0.842)^0.50 = 0.918

Your 150-shot at 950 is suddenly a 150 x 0.918 = 138-shot
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awesome chart becuase i have temp sticker on the bottle. thanks
Old Dec 18, 2003 | 11:48 AM
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I will usually but my bottle a bathtub full of hot water (im not kidding) this warms the bottle up really fast and then with a warmer you just have to maintain it with that and a blanket... Its been a great strategy for me for the past 3 years.
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How do the bottles hold up in the Vegas Summer heat? I figured they'd be close to blowing the safety valve. If at 100*F the bottle is at 1100 PSI, what is the in-car bottle PSI when it is 130*F outside?
Old Dec 19, 2003 | 11:35 AM
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How do the bottles hold up in the Vegas Summer heat? I figured they'd be close to blowing the safety valve. If at 100*F the bottle is at 1100 PSI, what is the in-car bottle PSI when it is 130*F outside?
I have seen 1350 with no heater, this past summer.. But I never really keep my bottle in my car... 98% I keep it in my garage.. almost never have to heat it.. Summers are nice because they hold pressure with just a bottle blanket and thats it



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