'03 East Coast Nats Update
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'03 East Coast Nats Update
hey gang,
i have been talking to soem people about teh event and seeing what direction everyone woudl lie to see things go in.
here is how things look right about now.
Date: august 23rd (have the opportunity to change it to august 16th, waiting to hear about autocross stuff before a decision is finalized. teh 16th woudl also put it a week before the trans am nats, so people coudl attend both)
Car Show: tentatively planned to have 1 class for each generatiopn just liek last year. spectator voted, noi division between stock and modified, your car just has to stand out. we already have some vendors and prize sponsors in mind to help develop a prize package and prize fund for the car show.
one thing we are exploring is a SHOW AND GO class. the idea is that you get 2 or 3 time shots on teh track. you earn points based on how your et compares to teh other competitors, then you go into a spectator judged show field. based on the voting teh car with teh best combined score wins. i need soem feedback on this one please!!!!
Drag Racing: we are plannign teh return of our bracket racing classes that we had last year. everything went smoothly and all classes were pretty well subscribed. all bracket classes are no electronics classes(no trans brakes, no 2-steps, no throttle stops) and are for street registered and insured, muffled vehicles.
the bracket classes are: True Radial: for regular street type radial tires, no racing tires allowed, Drag Radial: for racing designed tires of radial construction(bfg dr and dr kd, nitto's....you ge tthe idea), 6-Cyl: any f-body powered by 6 or fewer pistons on regular street type radial tires(6cyls with drag radials must compete in teh drag radial class), Slick: this class is for all vehicles equiped with bias ply type tires. full slicks as well as DOT approved bias drag tires will compete in this class.
Heads Up: this is a real sticking point for us. we saw hwo many peopel ran to teh bleachers to see our 1 pair of heads up cars last year, so we are trying to find a mroe wide open rules package to get more drivers interested. currently waht we have in mind is: must be through mufflers(e-town has a 95db rule), must have street legal runnign gear(functional head lights, horn, turn signals, brake lights), "full" interior(take out whatever you want as long as you can't really see it, back seats may be removed but area must be carpeted, no tin interiors), any amoutn of any 1 power adder as you want(multi stage nitrous or as much boost as you want, no combining of different types of power adders), run on a max 10.5 inch wide rear tire(as stated on tire sidewall), stock suspension or back halved ok(mini tubs ok, no tube frames), minimum weight, we aren't really sure yet. thinking around 2800 lbs, that woudl put it in between many of the outlaw classes adn many of the street classes, so more peopel shoudl be able to participate.
Autocross: right now the autocross looks 75% liekly to happen. that is pending final word from teh north jersey region of the SCCA. teh autocross will use the basic frame work of classes liek teh SCCA normally uses, we will eb "fudging" teh class rules a little to put cars in closer groups.
T-Shirts/Posters/Flyers: these are all being worked on currently. we are going after GM to see if they will allow us to use soem of their licensed logo's on teh shirts and posters. the basic flyer is pretty much done, just awaiting teh final classes and info to get it ready for the world.
Promotional and Advertising: this is where you guys all come in. we ahve foudn amny opportunities to get teh word out through teh print media, it is mostly small time stuff, but it will certainly help. what i woudl liek to ask of you all is that you keep teh word going on teh web. i am also looking fo rpeopel who may want to volunteer to be key contacts, the idea is that i cna send out an email to a small group of people and they can relay teh message to the web sites they visit, this will help me since i don't really have time to hit teh dozens of web sites concerning f-bodies all by myself. jsut send me a PM if you are interestre in volunteering.
Event Program Book: we are also kicking around the idea of putting together a small program book for teh event. nothing too outrageous, just soem intro information, pics from past events, and intro to drag racing adn autocross articles. possibly soem historic data on f-body's.
Video: we are looking into teh possibilty fo producing a video of this years event. we woudl liek to see caravan footage as well as footage from teh event. there are a good number of local bands that we can grab music from(soem of it not even that bad :P). there woudl be 2 versions of the video, one that is only a few minutes long that will be downloadable, and another that will be 45-60 mins long that will eb for sale(fund raiser for the '04 Nats). teh video woudl also be used as a promotional tool to help attract vendors and sponsors to future events.
Caravans: i hope that this year the event will have enough of a following that soem of you guys will be makign the trip as a part of a group. let me know where you are coming from and if you are plannign any stops, maybe we can put you intouch with other groups who are headed in teh same direction so you can really have a show of force on teh highway
that is about all for now guys, let me know what you think of everything we are looking at so far.
later
tim
i have been talking to soem people about teh event and seeing what direction everyone woudl lie to see things go in.
here is how things look right about now.
Date: august 23rd (have the opportunity to change it to august 16th, waiting to hear about autocross stuff before a decision is finalized. teh 16th woudl also put it a week before the trans am nats, so people coudl attend both)
Car Show: tentatively planned to have 1 class for each generatiopn just liek last year. spectator voted, noi division between stock and modified, your car just has to stand out. we already have some vendors and prize sponsors in mind to help develop a prize package and prize fund for the car show.
one thing we are exploring is a SHOW AND GO class. the idea is that you get 2 or 3 time shots on teh track. you earn points based on how your et compares to teh other competitors, then you go into a spectator judged show field. based on the voting teh car with teh best combined score wins. i need soem feedback on this one please!!!!
Drag Racing: we are plannign teh return of our bracket racing classes that we had last year. everything went smoothly and all classes were pretty well subscribed. all bracket classes are no electronics classes(no trans brakes, no 2-steps, no throttle stops) and are for street registered and insured, muffled vehicles.
the bracket classes are: True Radial: for regular street type radial tires, no racing tires allowed, Drag Radial: for racing designed tires of radial construction(bfg dr and dr kd, nitto's....you ge tthe idea), 6-Cyl: any f-body powered by 6 or fewer pistons on regular street type radial tires(6cyls with drag radials must compete in teh drag radial class), Slick: this class is for all vehicles equiped with bias ply type tires. full slicks as well as DOT approved bias drag tires will compete in this class.
Heads Up: this is a real sticking point for us. we saw hwo many peopel ran to teh bleachers to see our 1 pair of heads up cars last year, so we are trying to find a mroe wide open rules package to get more drivers interested. currently waht we have in mind is: must be through mufflers(e-town has a 95db rule), must have street legal runnign gear(functional head lights, horn, turn signals, brake lights), "full" interior(take out whatever you want as long as you can't really see it, back seats may be removed but area must be carpeted, no tin interiors), any amoutn of any 1 power adder as you want(multi stage nitrous or as much boost as you want, no combining of different types of power adders), run on a max 10.5 inch wide rear tire(as stated on tire sidewall), stock suspension or back halved ok(mini tubs ok, no tube frames), minimum weight, we aren't really sure yet. thinking around 2800 lbs, that woudl put it in between many of the outlaw classes adn many of the street classes, so more peopel shoudl be able to participate.
Autocross: right now the autocross looks 75% liekly to happen. that is pending final word from teh north jersey region of the SCCA. teh autocross will use the basic frame work of classes liek teh SCCA normally uses, we will eb "fudging" teh class rules a little to put cars in closer groups.
T-Shirts/Posters/Flyers: these are all being worked on currently. we are going after GM to see if they will allow us to use soem of their licensed logo's on teh shirts and posters. the basic flyer is pretty much done, just awaiting teh final classes and info to get it ready for the world.
Promotional and Advertising: this is where you guys all come in. we ahve foudn amny opportunities to get teh word out through teh print media, it is mostly small time stuff, but it will certainly help. what i woudl liek to ask of you all is that you keep teh word going on teh web. i am also looking fo rpeopel who may want to volunteer to be key contacts, the idea is that i cna send out an email to a small group of people and they can relay teh message to the web sites they visit, this will help me since i don't really have time to hit teh dozens of web sites concerning f-bodies all by myself. jsut send me a PM if you are interestre in volunteering.
Event Program Book: we are also kicking around the idea of putting together a small program book for teh event. nothing too outrageous, just soem intro information, pics from past events, and intro to drag racing adn autocross articles. possibly soem historic data on f-body's.
Video: we are looking into teh possibilty fo producing a video of this years event. we woudl liek to see caravan footage as well as footage from teh event. there are a good number of local bands that we can grab music from(soem of it not even that bad :P). there woudl be 2 versions of the video, one that is only a few minutes long that will be downloadable, and another that will be 45-60 mins long that will eb for sale(fund raiser for the '04 Nats). teh video woudl also be used as a promotional tool to help attract vendors and sponsors to future events.
Caravans: i hope that this year the event will have enough of a following that soem of you guys will be makign the trip as a part of a group. let me know where you are coming from and if you are plannign any stops, maybe we can put you intouch with other groups who are headed in teh same direction so you can really have a show of force on teh highway
that is about all for now guys, let me know what you think of everything we are looking at so far.
later
tim
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I thought you wanted more OC entries? Why not more than one power adder? I am interested in coming, but my 4,000+lb car would have no chance in OC without a little help from the nitrous fairy!
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the combining power adders thing is a sticking point for a large number of the potential heads up guys that i have talked to. they offer all kinds of reasons.
basically what i saw when i looked into it more was that it looks liek it woudl chase more cars away than it would include.
thanks
tim
basically what i saw when i looked into it more was that it looks liek it woudl chase more cars away than it would include.
thanks
tim
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it sounds good so far. i hope to bring a few of my girlfriends w/ me this year to run there car. i didnt see hardly any other girls running there cars last year, so hopefuly i can get some of my friends to come out and play.
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Originally posted by NJ SPEEDER
the combining power adders thing is a sticking point for a large number of the potential heads up guys that i have talked to. they offer all kinds of reasons.
basically what i saw when i looked into it more was that it looks liek it woudl chase more cars away than it would include.
thanks
tim
the combining power adders thing is a sticking point for a large number of the potential heads up guys that i have talked to. they offer all kinds of reasons.
basically what i saw when i looked into it more was that it looks liek it woudl chase more cars away than it would include.
thanks
tim
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hey gang,
this thursday, january 2nd, i was wondering if anyoen wanted to go to hooters. a few of the locals are planning to get together and do some mid winter work on a few cars and then head over to hooters for dinner and soem fun.
prolly gonan head over around 7 or 7:30. if you guys can show up i woudl liek to go over soem of the ideas for the east coastt nats and get seom feedback on it.
later
tim
this thursday, january 2nd, i was wondering if anyoen wanted to go to hooters. a few of the locals are planning to get together and do some mid winter work on a few cars and then head over to hooters for dinner and soem fun.
prolly gonan head over around 7 or 7:30. if you guys can show up i woudl liek to go over soem of the ideas for the east coastt nats and get seom feedback on it.
later
tim
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VERY IMPORTANT NEWS!!!!!!
hey gang,
we got a date change to announce again this year. this time it is a good thing. we are gonna move up one week and hold the event on august 16th.
this is actually gonan work to oru advantage a little bit. this way we are not running up against teh trans am nationals. and will hopefully allow soem of teh local guys to hit both shows instead of missing one.
teh web site is almost ready adn i am getting excited about it. we already have at least 1 paying web site advertiser, maybe as many as 3. this means we will ahve teh beginings of a real prize fund to help us going forward.
also, i jsut got great news that moves us a long way towards having an event program.
i am still waiting to hear back from gm about licensing, so teh t-shirts and event posters are still on hold.
all the drag and show classes are pretty much sorted out, we have soem good vendors and sponsor ideas, teh autocross is lookign very very likely to be in, and all we need to find is a portable chassis dyno to have the whoel event completed.
i think it is safe to say things are lookin pretty good...hehe
i woudl liek to plan another get together to go over everything for thursday january 16th. you guys know the routine, meet up at hooters around 7:30 or 8.
thanks guys
tim
we got a date change to announce again this year. this time it is a good thing. we are gonna move up one week and hold the event on august 16th.
this is actually gonan work to oru advantage a little bit. this way we are not running up against teh trans am nationals. and will hopefully allow soem of teh local guys to hit both shows instead of missing one.
teh web site is almost ready adn i am getting excited about it. we already have at least 1 paying web site advertiser, maybe as many as 3. this means we will ahve teh beginings of a real prize fund to help us going forward.
also, i jsut got great news that moves us a long way towards having an event program.
i am still waiting to hear back from gm about licensing, so teh t-shirts and event posters are still on hold.
all the drag and show classes are pretty much sorted out, we have soem good vendors and sponsor ideas, teh autocross is lookign very very likely to be in, and all we need to find is a portable chassis dyno to have the whoel event completed.
i think it is safe to say things are lookin pretty good...hehe
i woudl liek to plan another get together to go over everything for thursday january 16th. you guys know the routine, meet up at hooters around 7:30 or 8.
thanks guys
tim
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