I have heard this sucker will pass the sniffer ( New Jersey sniffer, not cali..), but I still want a bigger cam to make good use of these heads.

Will I make good hp gains over the hot cam with this 224/230 with 112 LSA ?

has anybody passed in CA with this cam?

thanks

Sean

btw I have the AFR 195 cc cnc ported heads with comp package. They flow like a ****

 

I've got the perfect comparo:

My black 93 has the 224/230 with some KILLER stock ported heads, and my purple pearl 93 has some not as killer ported heads and the hotcam.

224/230 all the way. The black one is soooooooo much stronger than the hotcam car.

Granted, both cams are similar in duration, LSA, and ICL, but that's where it ends. The 224/230 has more lift on both ends, and the fast lobes of the XE grind make it have a torque cruve that's flatter than a skinny supermodels chest.

 

Any rough estimates about how much power will increase?


ttt

Are Jersey smog tests as rough as California

 

i would almost bet the 224/230 has less overlap than the hotcam and overlap is what hurts emissions.

 

So what is the degree of overlap with the 224/230 with a 112 LSA? 114LSA?

What would be the advantage of a 112 over 114 and vice versa ?

What is the overlap on the hot cam ?

 

http://web.camaross.com/forums/showt...hreadid=166671



Use this link to get the information to figure it out yourself. Use LCA and duration to figure out overlap.

No, I don't think the 224/230 has more overlap. I don't have the time to figure it out, but just use your mind, and those two variables and you can find out how many degrees each has.

It's easy to see the 224 cam has more when both have the same LCA. The intake lobe on the 224 has 6 degrees more duration.

Anyway, creative satisfaction here for the taking!

Ben T.

 

BTW - I have these springs: 1.450" OD Hydraulic Dual Valve Spring, 120 lbs. on seat, .550" maximum lift, AFR #8020

Combination motorsports has 3 cams all with different durations and all on 112. Can i go with a cam with higher lift with these heads and not risk higher emissions and benefit.

The only thing still stock is on the top end is the lifters on my engine.

I wish I knew someone who passed in cali with one of these ...
seems the most popular is the 503 from summit.

I want to be able to rev kinda high since the flow numbers on the heads are really good up there and stuff.

Is this cam that much better than the cc305 ?

I have read a hundred posts and I am not sure if this is the cam yet .

ttt

 

Ok. With less overlap do you guys think the 230/236 EX on a 112 lope separation would pass emisions? Probably not but I have to ask.
HVY SS

 

Sorry I meant the 230/236 XE not EX.
HVY SS

 

I've done a lot of reading up on cams lately, and the CC 224/230 XE cam is very popular. I have read of members passing smog with it. I'm not sure if they used a 114 LSA though. I haven't heard bad things about the 224/230 cam. I have heard bad things about larger cams(230/236....) and I have heard some say that the CC305 is a little small for their taste.

At this point, if I were to get a cam, especially with ported heads, it would be the 224/230 XE. I would call comp cams and ask about a custom grind, like maybe a 114 LSA to help with emissions if you are really worried about it. See what they say about different LSA, from 110 -114. That is where you're going to get better fuel economy and better emmisions(larger LSA) The larger LSA prevents as much scavenging from occurring, but there is a performance hit for the larger LSA. It's up to you.

Dan

 

So the overlap on the 114 is 51* ... the 112 ?

 

In general, the 224/230 should make more power and have a "fatter" torque curve than the HOT cam. It's really hard to estimate how much, but I'll hazard maybe 20hp or so as an educated guess. As far as emissions, I think that as some have suggested, overlap is a major factor along with the intake center line. ICL is important because the more it is retarded, the earlier the overlap period is relative to the piston reaching TDC. This has the same effect on emissions as decreasing overlap. But as to if this cam will pass, I really don't know.

Rich Krause

 

Hey I am in a similar situation. I have the CC305 right now and I want to get the XE 224/230 on a 114 LSA because I want to be able to make as much power as possible and still pass emissions. I have not been able to find anyone who has put the 224/230 to the sniffer yet. So the question remains, will it pass?

BTW hvyss the 230/236 will not pass here in Cali, I don't about where you are

 

Well, the guy in New Jersey passed from this board. So all we have to do is find out if emissions in Jersey are as tough as here in California ...

So is it true though, that the same cam on a 114 LSA will not make the same power as one with a 112 ?

I am just going to do it in March after my next smog so I have two full years.