Who would you bring your LT4s to, to get ported?
02-06-2003, 01:23 AM
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Yes i agree phil has put out some unreal heads, and has the numbers to back it up.
I was just offerning another option.
Dave has a STOCK CAM car, CAI, 373, hooker LTs, and his heads going 12.5 at 110, 350CI.
His LT4 heads have my 4600lb impala running 110 traps.
He also has an 350 a4 that went 12.2 @ 112 on 3.73s, his heads, LTs, and an itty bitty cam. Car should be well into the 11s this year with new tranny, bigger stall, and some other stuff.
Just throwing out some numbers for comparo, trying to give you all some good options.
I was just offerning another option.
Dave has a STOCK CAM car, CAI, 373, hooker LTs, and his heads going 12.5 at 110, 350CI.
His LT4 heads have my 4600lb impala running 110 traps.
He also has an 350 a4 that went 12.2 @ 112 on 3.73s, his heads, LTs, and an itty bitty cam. Car should be well into the 11s this year with new tranny, bigger stall, and some other stuff.
Just throwing out some numbers for comparo, trying to give you all some good options.
02-06-2003, 11:06 AM
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Re: Who would you bring your LT4s to, to get ported?
Originally posted by 96z
Im thinking about going with a good set of ported LT4's for my stroker build up. Who would you have port your LT4's? After dealing with GTP Im a little leary who I will take my heads to....anyone with any success with a certain head porter?
With a good set of LT4's I dont think ~290 cfm would be an extremely unreasonable number to look for....
Im thinking about going with a good set of ported LT4's for my stroker build up. Who would you have port your LT4's? After dealing with GTP Im a little leary who I will take my heads to....anyone with any success with a certain head porter?
With a good set of LT4's I dont think ~290 cfm would be an extremely unreasonable number to look for....
02-06-2003, 11:13 AM
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Originally posted by bad95z28
Lloyd Elliott, aka Nightrain66. i've never personally had him do any work, but i've seen firsthand some of his work and i can say they look mighty nice and make the power to back it up. just another option.
Lloyd Elliott, aka Nightrain66. i've never personally had him do any work, but i've seen firsthand some of his work and i can say they look mighty nice and make the power to back it up. just another option.
02-06-2003, 11:42 AM
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I've only seen one dyno (Dr. mudge) on Phil's heads. I would like to see/hear a 1/4mile mph.
Matt: I've heard great things about Lloyd, and I am going to take my heads to him and have him fix them/re-work them right after Brett gets them back. One thing about Lloyd...you don't see him advertise on here, and you don't see him brag about anything. Very professional, IMO.
However, this board can make/break/overhype people. A year or two ago GTP and ARE were the gods of all shops, then Pro Performance...
Ryan
Matt: I've heard great things about Lloyd, and I am going to take my heads to him and have him fix them/re-work them right after Brett gets them back. One thing about Lloyd...you don't see him advertise on here, and you don't see him brag about anything. Very professional, IMO.
However, this board can make/break/overhype people. A year or two ago GTP and ARE were the gods of all shops, then Pro Performance...
Ryan
02-06-2003, 01:01 PM
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Nick Steel has a dyno out with MAC headers and Phil's heads, 411 RWHP, thats through the full exaust too. He is running an Ultradyne 230/238, he is a SoCal guy and I'm happy he ended up doing so well, the guy that helped him tune it thinks there is more power with more dyno time but who knows, frankly I'm happy for the guy and I'd be happy with that too.
I also agree with Joe's statement, its always nice to have a bigger number than the next guy, but it starts getting very pricey when you look at stock ported heads and going with AFR or LT4s and not getting all that much more out of them. Properly ported, and going with a nicer cam, if well tuned I'm sure someone will eventually make big numbers on the stock bottom, its certainly possible, but when does the money become too much. $1000-$1500 for an extra 40 RWHP? Is it worth it? Hmm.
I also agree with Joe's statement, its always nice to have a bigger number than the next guy, but it starts getting very pricey when you look at stock ported heads and going with AFR or LT4s and not getting all that much more out of them. Properly ported, and going with a nicer cam, if well tuned I'm sure someone will eventually make big numbers on the stock bottom, its certainly possible, but when does the money become too much. $1000-$1500 for an extra 40 RWHP? Is it worth it? Hmm.
02-06-2003, 01:18 PM
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Here is Nick's dyno
http://66.228.67.107/skarodom/heads/lt1/NS_LT1Dyno.jpg
I made 385 peak TQ, but HP fell flat at 5900 and leveled off, so obviously I was missing some action but never made it back to the dyno after replacing the Opti.
http://66.228.67.107/skarodom/heads/lt1/NS_LT1Dyno.jpg
I made 385 peak TQ, but HP fell flat at 5900 and leveled off, so obviously I was missing some action but never made it back to the dyno after replacing the Opti.
02-06-2003, 02:33 PM
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http://www.race-prep.com for heads. These guys are serious...
If you don't at least give 'em a call...you're cheating yourself.
760-200-5155
If you don't at least give 'em a call...you're cheating yourself.
760-200-5155
02-06-2003, 03:10 PM
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Hey 4 door lt4,
What kind of numers are you running in that pig. My 383 Imp went 12.8 on street tires, 3/4 gas tank, 2.0 60' at 110.
The set ups are very close though, same gearing, you got me by a decent amount on the stall(im 2800), and you have a few more cubes. Would be interesting to compare timeslips.
What kind of numers are you running in that pig. My 383 Imp went 12.8 on street tires, 3/4 gas tank, 2.0 60' at 110.
The set ups are very close though, same gearing, you got me by a decent amount on the stall(im 2800), and you have a few more cubes. Would be interesting to compare timeslips.
02-06-2003, 03:16 PM
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Nothing yet...motor's not in the car yet. Confident it will run mid 11's on the motor, and easy 10's on a little juice. I'll know for sure soon enough, but we're thinking very close to 600hp/TQ at the flywheel.
02-06-2003, 03:21 PM
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I would say phil. I have heard nothing but good things about him. He has a set of my heads now just getting a mild port job. I would say the best proof that he is the best is Dr. Mudge and his 410+ rwhp on shortie headers and i stock short block if i remember correctly.
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