Who has adapted an LS1 T56 to fit an LT1?
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Who has adapted an LS1 T56 to fit an LT1?
I'm interested to know if anyone has pulled this off. Assuming you have everything (clutch, hydraulics, pedals, tranny, driveshaft) what could fit, and what changes would have to be made?
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Why would you want to do that? The LT1 t-56 is way better, stronger brass synchros is only one of the advantages. LT1 t-56's were made by Borg-Warner, the new LS1 trannies are made by Tremec, the same company that makes the bull**** 5 speed in mustangs.
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I think all you have to do is swap out the bellhousing with one for an LT1 so you have the right bolt pattern. There may be more, but I don't think so.. I've never sat the two side by side and looked at them.
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Mainly because:
1. I'm a broke-*** ho and need a car to drive to work
2. This guy nearby me is selling his along with a Spec Stage III clutch, McLeod adjustable master cyl, Pro 5.0, and aluminum driveshaft for around the same price that Speed Automotive charges for a stock setup out of a wrecked car... so I'm hoping that at least some stuff could bolt up...?
1. I'm a broke-*** ho and need a car to drive to work
2. This guy nearby me is selling his along with a Spec Stage III clutch, McLeod adjustable master cyl, Pro 5.0, and aluminum driveshaft for around the same price that Speed Automotive charges for a stock setup out of a wrecked car... so I'm hoping that at least some stuff could bolt up...?
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Originally posted by 96 WS6
Why would you want to do that? The LT1 t-56 is way better, stronger brass synchros is only one of the advantages. LT1 t-56's were made by Borg-Warner, the new LS1 trannies are made by Tremec, the same company that makes the bull**** 5 speed in mustangs.
Why would you want to do that? The LT1 t-56 is way better, stronger brass synchros is only one of the advantages. LT1 t-56's were made by Borg-Warner, the new LS1 trannies are made by Tremec, the same company that makes the bull**** 5 speed in mustangs.
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They used the BG T45 in all mustangs from 94 to 98 EXCEPT the COBRAS in which they used the Tremec 5 speed
Also BG does not use brass blocker rings EXCEPT for reverse in the T56 or the T45 trans.
Another thing they use the Tremecs 6 speeds in pretty much all the Corvette's
Now back to the subject I do Believe they can be Interchanged but it may take a little more work than you may want to do because the 98 and up use the "push type" pressure plate and pre 98 use the "pull type".also the bellhousings can not be switched(I don't think at least)
Hope this helps.
Also BG does not use brass blocker rings EXCEPT for reverse in the T56 or the T45 trans.
Another thing they use the Tremecs 6 speeds in pretty much all the Corvette's
Now back to the subject I do Believe they can be Interchanged but it may take a little more work than you may want to do because the 98 and up use the "push type" pressure plate and pre 98 use the "pull type".also the bellhousings can not be switched(I don't think at least)
Hope this helps.
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Originally posted by Hawkeyes
Now back to the subject I do Believe they can be Interchanged but it may take a little more work than you may want to do because the 98 and up use the "push type" pressure plate and pre 98 use the "pull type".also the bellhousings can not be switched(I don't think at least)
Hope this helps.
Now back to the subject I do Believe they can be Interchanged but it may take a little more work than you may want to do because the 98 and up use the "push type" pressure plate and pre 98 use the "pull type".also the bellhousings can not be switched(I don't think at least)
Hope this helps.
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The differences on the T56 in the LS1 include a longer input shaft, the pusher type slave cylinder concentric to the input shaft, and a different bolt pattern. McLeod now make an SFI-rated "universal" adapter bell housing that will allow you to put virtually any T56 in virtually any car.... it has a system of spacer plates to adjust for the input shaft length and a variety of bolt patterns. Don't know what the price is, but I'm sure it isn't cheap.
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The Tremec TKO 5 speed is stronger than the T56, but not the T5 that is in the Mustang... (I beleive that's the transmission they use??)
Anyway, it should hold up, I'd save the money and have your current tranny "built".
Anyway, it should hold up, I'd save the money and have your current tranny "built".
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isnt the borg warner and tremec the same exact tranny!? one company bought out the other so the name changed but the design has not which makes me think the internals are also the same. T5, T45(newer GTs) are what you find on stangs.. even now the T56 on cobras. they are all borg warner but also hear them called tremecs so its all about what you like to say pretty much. if you set them all side by side its becomes very clear that they are all made by the same company just by their characteristics.
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TTC is a joint venture between DESC's automotive operation and Dana Corporation, traded under the NYSE symbol DCN. With the acquisition of TREMEC in 1994, the acquisition of Borg Warner's manual transmission operation in 1997, and the relocation of Dana's medium- and heavy-duty transmission operation in 1998, the Transmission Division became a full service Tier 1 transmission manufacturer.
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the TKO's are rated lower than the T-56's.. I would rather have the T-56 sitting behind my motor than any 3550, T5, TKO, or the II models...
FYI.. The ONLY "Cobra" that has ever come with a Tremec transmission (prior to 2001) is the 95 Cobra R and the 2001 Cobra R. Which as we all know aren't your normal everyday Cobra....
FYI.. The ONLY "Cobra" that has ever come with a Tremec transmission (prior to 2001) is the 95 Cobra R and the 2001 Cobra R. Which as we all know aren't your normal everyday Cobra....