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What is the newest engine I can drop in my camaro

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Old Jan 12, 2010 | 02:27 AM
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Well didn't someone put a LS3 or LS7 in a 2002 or 1998 camaro. I think is was in a magazine.

The hood isn't a problem they make a million hoods for the f-body.

The sad part is the 93-02 have a harder time with the space versus an 80's camaro for engines because of the damn windshield. I remember taking the intake off my LT1 and it barely snugged out because of the windshield LOL.

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Old Jan 12, 2010 | 07:07 AM
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Are you sorry you asked yet? And the windshield isn't that close , I just removed the intake off a lt1 car It came up aleast 2 to 3" before it hit . And if you are just looking into high tech I hear GM is working on a new Hybrid engine.lol

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Old Jan 12, 2010 | 03:38 PM
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With a LS3 or another motor wouldn't it be a tight fight under the windshield?

What is the next response go behind home depot parking lot and do 85MPH and see if me and Mcfly can go to the future.
Old Jan 12, 2010 | 04:45 PM
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Why would an LS3 be any "tighter" under the windshield, than an LS1?

And remember - the OP just wants "different", and cost is no object.
Old Jan 13, 2010 | 12:06 PM
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True. But using an LT car over an LS car... Why? Other than the obvious "Well a '97 SS looks better than a '98 SS" answer, there's really no BENEFIT in starting out with an LT1 based car. And besides, if you put ANY LS engine into an LT F-Body you're going to be using a cowl hood, replacing the entire front clip, or not running a hood at all. The stock and SS hood for LT1 based cars simply WILL NOT FIT an LS based engine. (Unless you build some one-off custom k-member and kiss all of your ground clearance good-bye.

And personally, I like to go as fast as possible for the money I have invested in my car. Wasting the money for a newer generation engine conversion when it could be spent elsewhere like the transmission, axle, or suspension is ignorant. It doesn't just take a big nasty cam and high cubes to be fast AND reliable. There's a lot that goes into building a decent car. It'd be pretty ****ty to spend $10,000 getting your "LS-Whatever" swapped into a LT1 based F-Body, only to break the 10-bolt a couple months later.

Out of all the years that you can pick from, a 93-97 F-Body is by far, the worst choice for this type of conversion. Hell, even a 3rd gen would be easier. IMO.
Some good points, but, you seem to be saying that anyone who does things for a different reasons than yours are wrong or ignorant. There are a lot of reasons for doing what we do, not all of them have to be logical or practical.
Personally I think my 97 SS is one of the best looking cars EVER produced by anyone! And reason enough to keep upgrading it. You also seem to be over exaggerating the problems to prove your point.
Old Jan 13, 2010 | 12:59 PM
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So let me sum this up.

You want the highest technology motor, available 2 to 3 years from now, and HP and torque do not matter, with no objection to cost, and the potential to be raped by 383 LT1s (likely much cheaper than what you're looking for), expect it to drop right in, just to brag?

To who?!
I'm noticing that your beating me to it on these kind of threads.

OP just sell the LT1 car to someone who can enjoy it and go buy a 98-02. Hell if money is no object just get a ZR1 and be done with it. They are lighter, handle better, and will give you so much to brag about

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Old Jan 13, 2010 | 01:45 PM
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Well like the other guy said I think the 1997 is the best looking year and I just wanted to see what is a better option. I just want some guy saying "holy crap he stuffed a _______ in a 97 camaro!"

Thanks for the responses and I think I will just build my LT1 to a 383 and have lloyd do the intake and heads for now.
Old Jan 13, 2010 | 01:51 PM
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The LS7 will not be outdated in 2-3 years. you can get a turnkey setup for around 12,000.00 The LS7 is the base for alot of the future platforms. LS3 has the unported ls7 heads so will many other future platforms. I would go with either an LS3 or 7. You would just need an LS1 K-member for it to bolt in. Hot Rod Mag did a feature on a LS7 in a 4th gen and ran extremely well and you can get wayyy more than 500hp out of it.
Old Jan 13, 2010 | 02:08 PM
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Originally Posted by thewhite97z28
Well like the other guy said I think the 1997 is the best looking year and I just wanted to see what is a better option. I just want some guy saying "holy crap he stuffed a LB7 6.6L Duramax in a 97 camaro!"

Thanks for the responses and I think I will just build my LT1 to a 383 and have lloyd do the intake and heads for now.
That would be impressive.

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Old Jan 13, 2010 | 02:09 PM
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Originally Posted by thewhite97z28
Well didn't someone put a LS3 or LS7 in a 2002 or 1998 camaro. I think is was in a magazine.

The hood isn't a problem they make a million hoods for the f-body.

The sad part is the 93-02 have a harder time with the space versus an 80's camaro for engines because of the damn windshield. I remember taking the intake off my LT1 and it barely snugged out because of the windshield LOL.
The reason people are telling you to go with a 1998-2002 car is that they are already set up for the LS series of engines. For all intenets and purposes all LS series engines are based on the same architecture. An LS1, LS3, LS7, and so forth are not that much different from a size, mounting point, and basic setup. It is a lot closer to a plug and play operation than with th LT platform cars. Your last idea is probably the best. Build a good LT motor, and upgrade the rest of the car instead of "wasting" money on conversion pieces that will not vastly improve the vehicle.
Old Jan 13, 2010 | 09:24 PM
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Some of you guys take these questions way too seriously. At this point, he's just speculating. If that's what he wants to do, let him do it.
Old Jan 14, 2010 | 12:18 AM
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Hell more power 2 him (Hopefully literally). So no one has put a LS9 in a fourth gen. If so a link. And if not you could be the first one. That would get you some serious magazine time. And not to mention one hell off a ride.
Old Jan 14, 2010 | 12:37 PM
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Originally Posted by SSCamaro99_3
The reason people are telling you to go with a 1998-2002 car is that they are already set up for the LS series of engines. For all intenets and purposes all LS series engines are based on the same architecture. An LS1, LS3, LS7, and so forth are not that much different from a size, mounting point, and basic setup. It is a lot closer to a plug and play operation than with th LT platform cars. Your last idea is probably the best. Build a good LT motor, and upgrade the rest of the car instead of "wasting" money on conversion pieces that will not vastly improve the vehicle.
There is very little differance between the lt and ls cars. With a few parts and patience they go in just fine. He already has the car and obviously he likes what he has. When the timing chain snapped in my car I was going to do the same thing that he is planning. I did alot of research, trust me its not that hard what he wants to do.
Old Jan 14, 2010 | 12:46 PM
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+1 on the diesel but lets be honest its Cummins all the way.
Old Jan 14, 2010 | 01:14 PM
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+1 on the diesel but lets be honest its Cummins all the way.
I missed this suggestion the first time around. A 400 hp, 1100 lb-ft diesel would certainly be interesting.



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