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Old May 24, 2005 | 05:55 PM
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What happened to APE?

I ordered a short block back in Feb. from their GP. Needless to say I didn't receive it and got a credit from my credit card company. But what I am curious about is what really happened to them! I was really looking forward to getting that forged 383. I gave up on the car and bought a brand new WBH Avalanche. I guess I will just do the car over the winter again now. If any one nows anything chime in. The curiousity is killing me. I hope all turned out well for you guys too. Please let me know....John
Old May 24, 2005 | 05:56 PM
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went out of business hopefully. They've screwed so many people over...
Old May 24, 2005 | 06:22 PM
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Originally Posted by BMAN'S SCZ
I ordered a short block back in Feb. from their GP. Needless to say I didn't receive it and got a credit from my credit card company. But what I am curious about is what really happened to them! I was really looking forward to getting that forged 383. I gave up on the car and bought a brand new WBH Avalanche. I guess I will just do the car over the winter again now. If any one nows anything chime in. The curiousity is killing me. I hope all turned out well for you guys too. Please let me know....John
From what i have read they ran that GP and got in WAY over there heads. They were a relatively new business....ran a sale and got so many orders they had no way to get them all done in the amount of time they promised.
I read that and some other posts...I may be wrong but thats the way I read it.
Old May 24, 2005 | 11:41 PM
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Yeah their gone, they are about a mile from my house.
Old May 25, 2005 | 02:12 AM
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Why don't places understand this.... a shortblock or longblock GP will run you out of business.... These places are just not setup for the volume that gets thrown at them so something will suffer, quality, deliverly or customer serivce. If they are ready for it then they will have way more capacity to build motors than they need when it's all over.... The laws of economics pretty much define this. Happened to Nu-Tek, now APE, who's next?

As much as you guys want something for nothing, it's just dumb business for someone to do this. Always ends up that you rarely get what you don't pay for. If it's cheap, then it's cheap for a reason.

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Old May 25, 2005 | 02:16 AM
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Originally Posted by SStrokerAce
If it's cheap, then it's cheap for a reason.

Bret
Exactly.
Old May 25, 2005 | 02:18 AM
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I work right next door to them basically. From what I was the told the owner knew that the place was closing down way way before it did. While in the mean time still was taking money and still setting up appointments. I heard he owed more then a half million. Thats allot of Green
Old May 25, 2005 | 04:01 AM
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One of the few lucky ones here I guess. I ordered my short block and recieved it on time - but that was almost a year ago.

They were nice, communicative, timely... Kind of sucks that they ran the place into the ground.
Old May 25, 2005 | 05:42 AM
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There is a new phenomenon that I think is related to Algore's greatest invention - the 'net. What happens is that a place can develop a great reputation based on almost no real achievements and then grow very rapidly. The kind of "natural selection" that normally culls out incompetent or unscrupulous businesses is short circuited. If you look at the story of Nu-Tek, APE, ARE, etc. what you should learn is that if something seems to good to be true, it probably is. All shops pay about the same price for parts, space, tools, insurance, etc. If the price is a lot lower than the competition, something is going to suffer.

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Old May 25, 2005 | 12:22 PM
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Rich hit the nail on the head....

Nu-Tek did good work from what I saw too... he just wasn't the best with the business side of all of this.

ARE... well they are a different story, I wouldn't lump these two together in ANY group.
Old May 25, 2005 | 02:06 PM
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Re: What happened to APE?

Originally Posted by SStrokerAce
Why don't places understand this.... a shortblock or longblock GP will run you out of business.... These places are just not setup for the volume that gets thrown at them so something will suffer, quality, deliverly or customer serivce. If they are ready for it then they will have way more capacity to build motors than they need when it's all over.... The laws of economics pretty much define this. Happened to Nu-Tek, now APE, who's next?
I think their downfall was that they didn't put a limit on orders. Chris gathered so many orders, that there was no way in hell he could fill them all in time. 5-10 orders are manageable, 20-30 is not.

Nu-Tek did good work from what I saw too... he just wasn't the best with the business side of all of this.
I agree. I've got a Nu-Tek 383 in my car and have had no problems. I always got ahold of Nick when I had a question, but this was before everything started to go downhill.
Old May 25, 2005 | 06:13 PM
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Ya, that is what I kind of heard. I just wanted an update on the situation. I hope everthing turned out for all those people. I am a little disappointed that I didn't get my forged stroker though. I guess I will have to start from step again......John
Old May 25, 2005 | 07:38 PM
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Yeah buddy there gone. The shop is clean everything is gone. I did hear a dyno from there shop today. I dont know who it was but there was something going on today in there garage. -
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