alright so im just gonna see what you guys think about this build, make sure im not kissing something and maybe a hp est.
ignition kit:
MSD Optispark Distributor
MSD 6AL Igniton Box
MSD Blaster Coil
MSD Installation Wiring Harness
MSD Custom-Fit Super Conductor Spark Plug Wire Set
jegs lt4 hot cam kit http://www.jegs.com/i/GM-Performance...80002/10002/-1
pace setter long tube headers
cat delete
cutout where the cat was
32lb injectors
3000 stall w/lockup
tune of some kind... sugestions?
sending heads in to make sure there not warped and clean them up, possibly port them?
anyway what you people think? thanks

 

Do a search for hotcam results. I doubt you'll be impressed.

What are you looking to accomplish? Street? Street/strip?

 

im just doing a street application, and im not totally sure i understand the whole idea of picking out a great cam, can someone give me some pointers? lol hence why i posted this, im on a budget and with all this stuff its tight... not a lota room to mess up

 

If you are tight on funds, don't spend the limited resources on things that offer no real advantage.

-MSD Opti is no better than an OEM Opti. What makes you think your Opti needs to be replaced?

-MSD 6AL ignition box offers no real advantage on a basically stock engine. Its good for a nitrous setup.

-MSD Coil offers no real advantage. What is wrong with your stock coil?

-You don't need the MSD wiring harness, because you don't need the 6AL.

-The MSD SuperConductors are good wires. But they are only worth installing if you have a problem with your current wires.

-Cam is a personal preference, headers are a good choice, cat delete depends on what you plan to do after the headers. Appears you are going to use a Y-pipe and the stock cat-back. I would replace the catback. The cutout will give you what you need, if you can stand driving around with all that noise.... depends how you use the car.

-An LT4 HOT cam and headers on an otherwise stock engine does not need 32 #/HR injectors. Stockers are adequate.

-Stall is personal preference.

-A good set of ported heads will require larger injectors, but at this point, your intentions with the heads are very vague, at best.

 

Need more info on your build to even come close to an hp estimate...Not to mention don't get caught up on hp numbers. You can make a motor have 450hp but be a total PITA to drive around because you only make power above 5000 rpm. If you are unsure what you want to do then start small. A simple call to Lloyd Elliot and he can set you up. Try to have an end-goal in mind before you start throwing parts at the car you don't really need. There are much better top-end kits out there than the LT4...

 

dont forget some 1.5 or 1.6 roller rockers!

 

Save your money... most people reading this can appreciate your enthusiasm, but you will get more out of your investment if you have a broader view of your goal, and it is not always easy to see for us newbies. That's a bad a$$ ignition set up for a hot 383+ with a 200 shot ready to rock, but if your staying relatively stock Injuneer is telling you the truth. I have spent the last 4 years reading and gathering information on what to do with these cars (I also have a 94 Caddy Fleetwood Brougham on standby) and it is better to start with the basics of what RPM range the engine will perform and where it is weakest. No air in = No air out. The factory intake in these cars is a joke and the stock exhaust headers/y-pipe are hilarious. You are going to be on the street so focus more on torque. CC 501 might be worth it with a 52mm TB, cleaned up intake manifold and a mild port on the heads with a spring/retainer and rocker upgrade, and full exhaust. I would calm down on the 3000 RPM TC, thats a bit much for where you are, a 1800-2000 would be more appropriate but it is personal preference. It looks like you picked out about $3000 dollars worth of parts that don't necessarily fit what you are doing. I look forward to seeing what direction you go.

 

well this is a response to injuneer but the opti was already shot so i figured i would get a new one anyway, and to justify a lot of those extra parts it the fact that i probably will end up doing more to this car, right now im still in school so i can dump all my money into it now and there are some things that i just want to be ready for now so later on i (hopefully) dont have to spend the money on it later when money may be more of an issue if that makes sense, and as far as from the cat back on the exhaust, it has a different muffler on it other then that its stock, and idk i figured i would get an electric cutout and tune it with the cutout open, would it run right if i leave the cat back the way it is when i have the cutout closed?

 

What Fred is saying is that not everything you listed is necessary and would be considered an upgrade, beneficial in no way, even at the later stages of your build.

An electric cutout is a good investment.

 

I guess I just don't understand your financial situation.

 

lol srry i did kinda contradict myself there Injuneer, been a long week, but anyway yea what i have picked out is pushing the current amount of money i have... but that amount will go up soon so... haha yea ... but anyway eventually as what GenIIJR said i am eventually thinking of doing a 383 kit and it will eventually turn into a drag car... atleast thats my end goal

 

Stay out of debt while building "the car" as best you can, and don't bet on money you don't have. That is the best advise I never took when I was in school and then worked my butt off scraping by to get out of debt the last six years. I like to imagine how much better life could be if I had back just half of the money I spent on beer and chasing muff around through college, in the bank these last several years... I could be well on my way to a fire breathing 396 for Joleen... I never thought like that until I had kids and now I get why my dad was the way he was. Damn-it i feel old all of a sudden.
You need an opti so go stock, nothing you have justifies an MSD piece. Also, I have found out that good heads/valve train offer more potential advantage than just the theoretical "good" cam which is subjective based on what ability the heads/valve train are able to handle anyway.

 

I think what's been said already is great advice. You should pay close attention to it. My advice (based on the assumption of not wanting to spend a ton):

stock ignition with new plugs and wires
headers
pocket porting and valve job for the heads
cam: Lunati 60121 with compatible beehive springs
upgraded pushrods - call Manton for advice
roller rockers with 1.6:1 on the intake side

Rich

 

alright so drop the msd stuff, but either way i have been wanting to redo the ignition system just to redo it cause its getting old... i do believe that a lot of the stuff besides the plugs and wires are origional and the car is at about 125k miles... idk what you guys think about doing that atleast or should i just not mess with it? i am having the engine built by a mechanic so what ever needs to be done should be done now.
i was planning on getting 1.6 rockers (that came with the LT4 kit that i picked out but probably wont be getting)
thought about it for a while longer and i am going to get the heads ported and valves done ( thanks rskrause for mentioning that... i knew i was forgetting something)

 

My advice is spend the money you have now on the car not the engine. Stuff like subframe connectors, good shocks, lower control arms, good tires, torque arm, sway bars, etc. These improvements will make the car more fun to drive with the engine you already have. Build the engine after the car is up to speed otherwise you will have a motor in a poor handling car.