The factory push-lock connectors are made from Nylon and last a LONG time. As long as they are not manhandled, reusing them should not be an issue. One should be careful not to nick the o-ring inside the connector when pushing it onto the steel male nipple. A bit of silicon grease can help. The main reason we started including the push-lock connectors is to make the assembly more PnP. There are no issues connecting the flex-tube to the factory push-lock fitting on the older kits made before Sept '05. People just simply overlooked this and connected them directly to the metal line which is where the problem lies.

We are shipping Thunder Racing some flex-tube assemblies with push-lock fittings installed as service parts. P/N RX-FLT1-FPDTA.

 

In regards to this thread on WS6ZXR...

The only reason the Buna foam insulator would fall apart is if it was damaged during the installation process (possibly from too many R&R's). The foam is compatible with gas. It will only exhibit minor shrinkage with long-term exposure to gas. The same adhesive which seals the bucket is used to secure the foam rubber insulator. It is tucked up inside the top of the bucket with a friction fit. This foam is a required item and should not be removed.

This customer has chosen to buy a 3rd party filter sock. If he would have contacted support@racetornix.com or called Thunder he would have learned that the proper 30-micron graded-media filter sock is required to protect the pump from harmful debris in the tank. (Thunder stocks this item P/N FLT1-FS1) Many filter socks are only a 70-micron nylon mesh which will not provide adequate protection for a Walbro gerotor pump. If one is considering substituting 3rd party parts into a Racetronix system please ask us first. It can save everybody involved time, money and possible aggravation.

If you are having problems with your Racetronix system please contact our support dept. or authorized Racetronix dealer with as much info as possible. Sometimes it is hard to diagnose installation related problems caused by untrained D-I-Y installers. Please do not approach your vendor or the manufacturer adamant that that the product was defective. This is taking the long road to resolution. It is much easier to help and go a step beyond if a solution is sought with an open mind. What we see here on WS6ZXR is counterproductive and leaves unassuming readers to believe that the product has QC issues and that Racetronix and its dealers have mishandled the matter.

Walbro's warranty or lack there of has been covered in page two of this thread. Unpopular as it may be it is well justified and required to maintain the price point of the pumps. If you install a pump properly it will provide many years of trouble-free service.

If one has limited automotive service training please consider having a Racetronix dealer or licensed tech perform the installation or at least provide common sense pointers to avoid installation related problems. As we collect data on installation-related errors we will add pointers to our manual.

 

This isnt my pump, but Matt had contacted both you and thunder on two different occasions without any resolve. As far as I see it, he didnt have much choice?

 

 

Some of the information posted on the other forum is missing from the information provided to us. Much of it is after-the-fact diagnosis. Given the insight into the real problem (being the foam) we would have provided a new piece and a filter sock at no charge. There was no way for us to foresee / diagnose the multitude of installation-related problems created by D-I-Y installations based on limited information provided by some customers. As one can see a simple visual inspection by the customer was all it took.

This is why we encourage customers to seek qualified / experienced help with the installation of a pump system.

We are sorry the customer feels as if he was let down. He is welcome to the service parts free of charge which we can arrange through Thunder Racing. Hopefully the tank was properly cleaned prior to installation of the pump and the current filter sock is the proper type.

For further discussion of this matter contact support@racetronix.com.

Thank you.

 

So are you saying you'll replace my pump and sock, or are you telling me to send my fuel pump back to Thunder Racing?

 

For further discussion of this matter contact support@racetronix.com.

Thank you.

 

"more PnP"?

That's in case the original 8+ year old plastic connector with rubber 'O' ring was not "PnP" since "reusing them should not be an issue", correct?

A 'search' and an 'advance search' on the Thunder Racing website for:
part number = RX-FLT1-FPDTA
manufacturer = racetronix
vehicle = 1993-1997 F-body
yeilds no results.
Since there is a slight possibility they will not answer an e-mail if I send another, I assume if I call to "arrange" for me to aquire this "service parts. P/N RX-FLT1-FPDTA", flex line and connector, they will know what I'm reffering to? Is there a particular person I need to ask for concerning this part?

FYI:
The internet and these message forums are a tool for information in an un-presidented porportion as opposed to previous info sources. There is an abundance of very useful and valueable info, 'free of charge', as well as an abundance of mis-information. Deciphering that information took me a little time.
I was 'Master ASE certified' when 'ASE' was 'NIASE' and trained at tech school for enough hours to have a licence to repair the moon and all that crap, but there is plenty of stuff I don't know about repairing a car as are a good percentage of the 'ASE certified' mechanics I've seen in the past 30 years in this feild.
I am not real handy with my personal computer, but since 3-2003 when I bought both my PC and my 96 trans am, I've learned about modifying this car at a rate that far exceeds any school I paid for, mainly on this forum and ws6zxr.com
In order to help some of the car owners that post on these boards with correct information, I have tried to post info that will help them, rather than pecking up a reply on the keyboard that will sound good and cause them spending thier time and money to no avail. The main reason I try to help is because I have recieved so much help here and a good example of that help is all the links that Matt {Cmr0z28} has given me when I was ready to purchase a new part for whatever I was modifying at that time. He directed me to Thunder Racing as well as other vendors for several of my purchases including where I got the link to order my Racetronix pump in this thread. I am certainly not the only one who he has helped with links to the best suppliers for parts. With 4,302 post on ws6zxr, most of which are 'on topic' , and 3,502 on this board,
he has certainly influenced many others like me with links to dependable vendors with dependable parts.
I don't know much about marketing, and don't want to. But I believe if my buisness had a "free of charge" advertising tool like him, I think it would certainly be to my advantage to give him whatever he needs, within reason, to keep him on my side.
But all that's just my opinion and I don't know a whole lot.

This whole thread reminds me of the dentist I use, except in reverse, although I thank you and your company for offering the RX-FLT1-FPDTA kit to allow the Racetronix buyers that did not recieve the "PnP" parts to have an oportunity the get the full potential of of an excellent pump. My pump has performed flawlessly around town, on the highway and at WOT without any problems, other than long cranking time, and this without even having the proper plumbing. That's a very good pump and, at the price, is a very good addition to any 93-97 LT1 F-Body that needs a replacement, or an upgrade.
BTW: Matt's link thing seems to be contagious. I have also recommended Racetronix and TR. Wan't some links?

Also: Did you really mean "silicon grease"?

There are several suppliers that would not take the time and effort to reply to a thread like this. For that, I respect you and appreciate your time!!!
Mike

 

I'm wandering if the parts have been supplied to your distributors yet; Thunder Racing in particular in my case.
Just wandering since I haven't seen an update, which, if they are now avaiable, it's my fault for not updating my own request.
My thanks for your effort if this has been addressed, and as I posted previously, my Racetronix pump 'rock's' other than the subject I have posted in this thread.
I e-mailed Thunder Racing requesting an update. I'm sure I'll get a response soon.
Thanks again for your time,
Mike

 

Thunder has had the kits for quite some time now...

 

That means you have done your part and I will continue to recommend not only your parts, but also your customer service. Very good in both area's IMO.
Racetronix is a very wise parts purchase as far as I'm concerned.
Service means a world of difference in aftermarket replacement parts. If it is good enough to not fail, then it's probably not on this planet. If it does, the real problem is a supplier who can't seem to type or answer his phone. Your continued reponses in this thread shows that neither of the above issues will be a problem. I wasn't born yesterday and see you were not either!!!
Thanks again and I believe we can consider this thread closed, AFAIAC...
Matt?

Angie?

 

This thread almost scared me away from buying my kit from Thunder Racing. I did anyways and I pray it all works out or I'm going to be pissed.

 

None of my replies in this thread have been in order to suggest anything negative about the quality or reliability of the Racetronix pump, and assuming you recieved a replacement "PNP" connector {for the pressure line connection}, to use in the installation, you shouldn't have any problems based on my experience. You did recieve a repacement "push-lock connector"
correct?

 

I just received the racetronix pump from thunder. It has directions and also some tips as mentioned before. Has the pnp connector too. Took 2 weeks to get here though. My mechanic should have no problems installing it.

Is it better to drop the tank so u can clean it better? or should I have him do the access panel?

 

My perspective is this if you can buy it at Summit Racing----but it there. If you can't pray and hope you get a part that isn't defective. I have yet to see a company match them in service and that my friends is why they are so huge. Summit has unpresedented customer service. You can ship a perfectly good part back 90 days later and just say you bought the wrong part which has happened to me a couple times.

Summit Racing