Should I put in a cam in it?
Re: Should I put in a cam in it?
lol I dunno, i think the hotcam is good enough. I mean this is my ONLY car that I drive every single day. From stop n go traffic to trips back and forth 100+ miles. I really want a streetable cam. What do i consider streetable? light LIGHT cam surge, decent gas milage, and comfort. If anything the CC305 would probably be the biggest i'd go. Now if my car was a 6speed hell id get the cc306, but its not.
You guys really dont think the hotcam is a good choice?
You guys really dont think the hotcam is a good choice?
Re: Should I put in a cam in it?
you are in H-town. im sure there are several people down there with cams that would take you for a ride or at least show you their car, how it runs, etc......
Re: Should I put in a cam in it?
If you are set on a cam, then going by your wants, I would look at the GM 845 cam, or the Crane 210/224. Both are great for daily driving and the Crane has VERY little lope. You can talk to truedualws6 about the Crane cam.
With stock heads, 1.6 RR's, and headers, either of those cams should be in the 325 rwhp range with a M6 tranny, and probably 10-15 hp less than that with an A4.
Dan
With stock heads, 1.6 RR's, and headers, either of those cams should be in the 325 rwhp range with a M6 tranny, and probably 10-15 hp less than that with an A4.
Dan
Re: Should I put in a cam in it?
we all know my 280rwhp is stronger than your 355rwhp 
I think i'll be choosing between either the cc305 or the hotcam...
Gotta wait to get paid though... I have everything i need except... Cam.. Gaskets.. Lifters... Timing Chain...Electric WP... and maybe little things here and there... I already have the whole valvetrain, but im gonna have to return the LT4 springs because im going to be using 1.7 rr's. After this pay check i gotta pay a few bills but im just gonna see what i can get deals on.
Re: Should I put in a cam in it?
I just put in a hot cam and a new valvetrain, except lifters. and I have 109000 miles.
runs great. I used the hotcam cause I got it for free
.
Otherwise I probably would have gone bigger. but I also wanted something streetable
and not to loud since I live in a town with a noise ordinance, so this works out well, and pulls a lot harder than stock.
runs great. I used the hotcam cause I got it for free
.Otherwise I probably would have gone bigger. but I also wanted something streetable
and not to loud since I live in a town with a noise ordinance, so this works out well, and pulls a lot harder than stock.
Re: Should I put in a cam in it?
Originally Posted by Robert95z
we all know my 280rwhp is stronger than your 355rwhp 
I think i'll be choosing between either the cc305 or the hotcam...
Gotta wait to get paid though... I have everything i need except... Cam.. Gaskets.. Lifters... Timing Chain...Electric WP... and maybe little things here and there... I already have the whole valvetrain, but im gonna have to return the LT4 springs because im going to be using 1.7 rr's. After this pay check i gotta pay a few bills but im just gonna see what i can get deals on.
Re: Should I put in a cam in it?
I'm going to go against just about everyone else here and this is why: Practicality/common sense 
This is your ONLY car, you obviously drive it a LOT of miles each day, and need it to be as reliable as possible (considering it is a ten year old car with about 75k on it). So if you change the cam/valvetrain, your car is going to DRINK gas with an A4/3.73 set-up on the highway (let alone the several WOT blasts you do around town; yes, you will drive the car HARDER after the cam).
Why else would you put in a better cam only to drive the car more conservatively around town?!
BTW, constantly having to fill up with premium (which is what your car will need to run efficiently; don't go cheap with anything less) will get very expensive very quickly if you don't make a lot money. A good install/tune should minimize cam surge/drivability issues, but you might still have your moments with an A4 using a stock converter. And with the swap of cams, you always run that risk of damaging your motor (rod bearing, blown headgasket) with higher-mileaged LT1's (heck, even low mileaged ones have bit the dust). Now usually, it's due to a bad install (nicking a cam bearing, etc.), but sometimes just the added rpms = doom.
Do you have the money for a rebuild if your motor goes out 500 miles after the install??? You don't know for sure, it could definitely happen. Because if not, just play it safe with your "reliable" stock motor for now at least until you can afford the rebuild or eventually get yourself a beater that you can drive daily instead. So for your situation, play it SMART and you'll be thankful you did...
Just a quick tip though, your LT1 will benefit more from a nice Vig 2800 stall converter with a stock cam vs the stock converter and the LT4 Hotcam or bigger. Non-full throttle runs aside, the stall will actually get you better gas mileage overall (especially because of it's lock-up feature over 40). Seriously though, your stock-cammed car with the Vig 2800 (on Nitto DR's) will rape your same LT4 Hotcammed car with the stock converter out of the hole and easily out ET it. Sure it won't trap quite as high, but who cares because your A4 will launch like a bat out of hell and be much more fun to drive around town (not to mention the reliability will be better with the stall than the cam).
Do the torque converter first and cam next after you can either afford the *risk* that go with it or after you have already bought another car to be your daily-driver instead...
Good luck,
Mike

This is your ONLY car, you obviously drive it a LOT of miles each day, and need it to be as reliable as possible (considering it is a ten year old car with about 75k on it). So if you change the cam/valvetrain, your car is going to DRINK gas with an A4/3.73 set-up on the highway (let alone the several WOT blasts you do around town; yes, you will drive the car HARDER after the cam).
Why else would you put in a better cam only to drive the car more conservatively around town?!
BTW, constantly having to fill up with premium (which is what your car will need to run efficiently; don't go cheap with anything less) will get very expensive very quickly if you don't make a lot money. A good install/tune should minimize cam surge/drivability issues, but you might still have your moments with an A4 using a stock converter. And with the swap of cams, you always run that risk of damaging your motor (rod bearing, blown headgasket) with higher-mileaged LT1's (heck, even low mileaged ones have bit the dust). Now usually, it's due to a bad install (nicking a cam bearing, etc.), but sometimes just the added rpms = doom.
Do you have the money for a rebuild if your motor goes out 500 miles after the install??? You don't know for sure, it could definitely happen. Because if not, just play it safe with your "reliable" stock motor for now at least until you can afford the rebuild or eventually get yourself a beater that you can drive daily instead. So for your situation, play it SMART and you'll be thankful you did...Just a quick tip though, your LT1 will benefit more from a nice Vig 2800 stall converter with a stock cam vs the stock converter and the LT4 Hotcam or bigger. Non-full throttle runs aside, the stall will actually get you better gas mileage overall (especially because of it's lock-up feature over 40). Seriously though, your stock-cammed car with the Vig 2800 (on Nitto DR's) will rape your same LT4 Hotcammed car with the stock converter out of the hole and easily out ET it. Sure it won't trap quite as high, but who cares because your A4 will launch like a bat out of hell and be much more fun to drive around town (not to mention the reliability will be better with the stall than the cam).
Do the torque converter first and cam next after you can either afford the *risk* that go with it or after you have already bought another car to be your daily-driver instead...

Good luck,
Mike
Re: Should I put in a cam in it?
lol, i remember not long* ago before i did my buildup i was asking about cam's and people told me the CC305 was around the limit of loseing street-ability. Now that its in, and ive only drove it like 3 times i now wish i went with the cc306. It pulls nice up in the 3500 rpm range and up but i was still expecting a little more go. Granted i need a tune really bad. The CC305 is pretty much a big brother to the "wimpy" hotcam. Afew months from now i can see everyone calling the CC305 trash.
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Re: Should I put in a cam in it?
Ive been seriously thinking about NOT doing the cam swap... I mean i want the lope, and i want the power, but i CANNOT afford a rebuild. I'm thinking of just throwing in the new valvetrain and calling it quits... And maybe saving up for the T56 conversion first... Or buying a cbr600 lol... I have a low paying job so these things take time for me... We'll see im gonna keep thinking about it. Thanks for all the advice!!
-Robert
-Robert
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