Shorties with H/C?
Re: Shorties with H/C?
Hey everyone I was thinking about replacing my edelbrock shorty headers for some pacesetter L/Ts.
I was wondering if it would be worth it and what gains i could potentially see.
Right now with my ported lt1 heads CC503 cam and other mods this is my best time slip
1/8mile
8.49s
83mph
1.9 60ft street tires.
Could my shorty headers be hurting my performance?
I was wondering if it would be worth it and what gains i could potentially see.
Right now with my ported lt1 heads CC503 cam and other mods this is my best time slip
1/8mile
8.49s
83mph
1.9 60ft street tires.
Could my shorty headers be hurting my performance?
Re: Shorties with H/C?
I'm not from Missouri but this would be something that I'd like to see.....maybe you could do a dyno run with the shorties and then after adding the long tubes.
I remain skeptical.....but I'm willing to learn!
I remain skeptical.....but I'm willing to learn!
Re: Shorties with H/C?
I know I need drag radials for the track. I'm just trying to be careful with my rear end. And like I said. I street it more than I track it. I only go to the track when I get new mods to see if my time increases.
I'd like go dyno it with shorties and see the results, then do longtubes and see results, but I don't have a lot of money to spare. Ill definitely have 2 comparable time slips for ya though
Last edited by Cerridius; Jan 2, 2013 at 06:49 AM.
Re: Shorties with H/C?
You can't compare a set of shorty headers with the stock Y and a set of long tubes. Apples and oranges. Removing the Y is where the power comes from. I run 8.1 @ 84 with the stock cam and some bolt-ons with a shorty header.
Re: Shorties with H/C?
The Edelbrock shorties were discontinued some time ago, but I'm pretty sure they came with a new Y-pipe. Here's a photo from an old for sale listing on this site.
http://im1.shutterfly.com/media/47a1...D720/ry%3D480/
http://im1.shutterfly.com/media/47a1...D720/ry%3D480/
Re: Shorties with H/C?
The Edelbrock shorties were discontinued some time ago, but I'm pretty sure they came with a new Y-pipe. Here's a photo from an old for sale listing on this site.
http://im1.shutterfly.com/media/47a1...D720/ry%3D480/
http://im1.shutterfly.com/media/47a1...D720/ry%3D480/
Re: Shorties with H/C?
I went from stock manifolds to long tubes. Here are the various mods with times/mph.....
5/22/08
Baseline stock with K&N CAI and Flowmaster catback.
Warmed up:9.1@80.322mph
Full cool down:8.9@82.436mph
10/03/08
CC503, 1.6 NSA Pro Mag Roller rockers, stock heads, stock exhaust manifolds, catback exhaust, K&N CAI, FMS 30# Injectors.
Warmed up:8.882@83.770mph
No full cool down run.
2/19/11
Added Kooks Long tube headers(1 3/4" x 3") and dual cat y-pipe.
Warmed up:8.437@87.88mph
Partial cool down:8.389@88.354mph
The above came from this...
https://www.camaroz28.com/forums/exh...review-865570/
Your time is on par with mine, but the mph could be telling of how much better a good set of long tubes may perform. Again, just be aware that I went from stock manifolds to long tubes.
I was trying to figure out why your time is so much better given that the sixty foot is only 0.1 off mine given the mph difference(most all my good times have a 2.0XX sixty foot). I suppose it could be the better breathing heads. Mine are still stock. I wonder if the auto+Yank converter is the reason? I guess it is a combo of the heads/auto/converter.
5/22/08
Baseline stock with K&N CAI and Flowmaster catback.
Warmed up:9.1@80.322mph
Full cool down:8.9@82.436mph
10/03/08
CC503, 1.6 NSA Pro Mag Roller rockers, stock heads, stock exhaust manifolds, catback exhaust, K&N CAI, FMS 30# Injectors.
Warmed up:8.882@83.770mph
No full cool down run.
2/19/11
Added Kooks Long tube headers(1 3/4" x 3") and dual cat y-pipe.
Warmed up:8.437@87.88mph
Partial cool down:8.389@88.354mph
The above came from this...
https://www.camaroz28.com/forums/exh...review-865570/
Your time is on par with mine, but the mph could be telling of how much better a good set of long tubes may perform. Again, just be aware that I went from stock manifolds to long tubes.
I was trying to figure out why your time is so much better given that the sixty foot is only 0.1 off mine given the mph difference(most all my good times have a 2.0XX sixty foot). I suppose it could be the better breathing heads. Mine are still stock. I wonder if the auto+Yank converter is the reason? I guess it is a combo of the heads/auto/converter.
Last edited by ACE1252; Jan 3, 2013 at 12:13 PM.
Re: Shorties with H/C?
Is yours a 6 speed? They tend to have higher MPH and autos seem quicker.
And ya im sure my heads help a lot. It can get all that air in but not out because of the
1 5/8 shorties I'm guessing.
And ya im sure my heads help a lot. It can get all that air in but not out because of the
1 5/8 shorties I'm guessing.
Re: Shorties with H/C?
Yeah, mine is a 6-speed manual. I have noticed that the autos get good times with low mph compared to the 6-speeds as well. With the street tires, I have to come out of the hole so soft that it usually bogs when I floor it. That might be a tuning issue....I'm not sure(or just the way I'm driving the manual).
I think there is more in your combo with a good long tube, but it may not be the leap like I had going from stock manifolds to long tubes.
A set of slicks on both our machines will do wonders for the times, but like you, I want to keep my 10 bolt in one piece.
Can you post the 330' numbers?
I think there is more in your combo with a good long tube, but it may not be the leap like I had going from stock manifolds to long tubes.
A set of slicks on both our machines will do wonders for the times, but like you, I want to keep my 10 bolt in one piece.
Can you post the 330' numbers?
Re: Shorties with H/C?
Long tubes with my income tax for sure. Already getting parts together. Got a new pair of Ac delco o2 sensors for $26 each.
My 330ft time
5.54s
63.48mph
My 330ft time
5.54s
63.48mph
Last edited by Cerridius; Jan 3, 2013 at 11:22 PM.
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