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Old Jul 26, 2003 | 09:02 PM
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safety equip ? roll bar

what kind of roll bar/cage would i bneed to be legal if im in the 11's. What other safety equipment would i need
Old Jul 26, 2003 | 09:12 PM
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drive shaft loop
helmet
6 or 8 point rollcage (not sure im sure someboby knows)

im sure there is others i just dont know them, guess we will learn together

i know its different for verts but my local track lets verts run consistent mid/low 13 without helmet or cage/bar
good for me
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Old Jul 26, 2003 | 09:20 PM
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SFI approved clutch/flywheel

SFI flywheel shield

ds loop

6 pt rollbar

helmet

SFI jacket
Old Jul 27, 2003 | 07:18 AM
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also what about the 12's
Old Jul 27, 2003 | 10:28 AM
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NHRA 1/4 mile

14:00 & Up
Catch can
Seat Bealts
Neutral Saftey Switch

13.99
Driveshaft Saftey Hoop
Helmet Snell 85 or Higher

11.99
Fire Jacket
Roll Bar
Arm Restraints (Open Cars)
Flywheel (SFI)
Clutch (SFI)
Valve Stems (Steel)
Bell Housing (SFI)
Seat Belts (5 Point SFI)



10.99
Trans Shield
Rear Axles (Aftermarket)
Harmonic Balancer
Window Net
Roll Cage

9.99
Gloves (SFI)
Fire Pants (SFI)
Neck Collar
Flexplate Shield
Electrical Cut Off
NHRA License
NHRA Chassis Sticker
Old Jul 27, 2003 | 10:36 AM
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what is the difference between a roll bar and a roll cage i want to still be able to use my back seat. also what is a catch can, neutral safety switch, and would i be able to use a 5 point safety harness without a new racing seat. Do any tracks rent out a helmet or would i need to buy one
Old Jul 27, 2003 | 11:33 AM
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The NHRA definition of a "roll bar" is a 5-point bar, consisting of a main hoop (2 points), two braces from within 5" of the top of the hoop to the rear body (2 points) and a single front brace/sidebar on the driver's side, passing between the shoulder and the elbow (1 point). The hoop must have a permanent crossbar (pin-ins not allowed). Sidebar can be swing out.

"Roll cage" adds diagonal braces to the bottom of the hoop, a secodn side brace on the passenger side, a halo extending forward to the windshield, two braces to the front of the halo, and a bottom bar on each side connecting the hoop floor mouting points to the front point where the side braces and halo supports connect to the floor.

Although the NHRA rulebook shows "Y" for roll cage in the 10.99-10.00 box, I was always under the impression that stock firewall cars did not require a "certified" roll cage until 9.99.

"Catch can" is a coolant overflow recovery can. Your stock one will suffice.

"Neutral safety switch" prevents the car from starting in gear. Your stock one will suffice.

The Pontiac seat work fine with a 5-point harness, because the shoulder straps will fit between the seat and the headrest. On the Camaros, I've seen seats with holes through the back and modified upholstery to accomodate the shoulder straps.

A couple other things they will look at at many tracks:

-wheel studs must engage lugnuts at least one diameter into the hex portion of the threads.

-battery must be securely fastened down with a bracket... cords not acceptable.

-battery relocated to rear hatch area (inside car) requires a sealed and vented containment box, j-hooks welded to subframe, and a master cutoff switch.

-a nitrous bottle in the passenger compartment (includes hatch area of an F-Body) requires a vent tube on the pressure relief system, venting nitrous outside the body.

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Old Jul 27, 2003 | 03:08 PM
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Originally posted by Injuneer
Although the NHRA rulebook shows "Y" for roll cage in the 10.99-10.00 box, I was always under the impression that stock firewall cars did not require a "certified" roll cage until 9.99.

that is correct, cars with stock firewall, and body and floor can use a roll bar until 9.99


-battery relocated to rear hatch area (inside car) requires a sealed and vented containment box, j-hooks welded to subframe, and a master cutoff switch.


to run nines, you must have a cutoff no matter where the battery is
Old Jul 27, 2003 | 04:18 PM
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Originally posted by gb95zconv
NHRA 1/4 mile

13.99
Driveshaft Saftey Hoop
Helmet Snell 85 or Higher

Just some notes here......you only need a driveshaft safety loop in a 13.99 or faster car IF its a manual trans. In an Auto you can run 12.99 before you need a loop.

Also as of mid season last year Snell 85 helmets are no longer legal. You need Snell2000 now.
Old Jul 27, 2003 | 04:34 PM
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thanx for all the information but can i still use the backseat with the rollbar
Old Jul 27, 2003 | 04:51 PM
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Just some notes here......you only need a driveshaft safety loop in a 13.99 or faster car IF its a manual trans. In an Auto you can run 12.99 before you need a loop.
Wrong.

13.99 or faster if the car is equipped with slicks. 12.99 and faster for cars with street tires.



Sure you can still use the backseat with a rollbar, however its not gonna be very useful imo.
Old Jul 27, 2003 | 05:47 PM
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Wrong.

13.99 or faster if the car is equipped with slicks. 12.99 and faster for cars with street tires.



Sure you can still use the backseat with a rollbar, however its not gonna be very useful imo.
Ah yea my bad. Hey I still was right about the helmet right?? Give a brotha some love here............he,he. I was just going on when I raced my '69 383 Charger. I was told I was gonna need a safety loop since it was a manual trans and i was in the 13's. Street tires didn't matter. I assume they;'ve changed the rules a bit from 10 years ago.

BTW do they consider drag radials slicks?? I'm thinking they don't.
Old Jul 27, 2003 | 06:11 PM
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Im almost positive that if i tire has DOT approval it is not considered a slick. may not be true for the et street though.
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