Q about timing chain for LE2 package.
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Q about timing chain for LE2 package.
I will be installing my LE2 package hopefully soon after I get it from Lloyd. I am probably going to run the Cloyes double roller timing chain.
Is there anyone with this timing chain and have you had any issues?
I know of someone who used a Cloyes OE replacement, but had issues. The recess, inside the "thrust face" of the cam gear was machined to an incorrect depth and when he tightened the gear to the cam, the back of the gear "locked up" on the front face of the block.
He then had to "massage" the gear into shape.
Anyone hear of this?
The only reason that I do not want to go with the LT4 timing chain is because it is so damn pricey, but at the same time I do not want to cut any corners and buy the cheap quality stuff either just because it is inexpensive.
Is there anyone with this timing chain and have you had any issues?
I know of someone who used a Cloyes OE replacement, but had issues. The recess, inside the "thrust face" of the cam gear was machined to an incorrect depth and when he tightened the gear to the cam, the back of the gear "locked up" on the front face of the block.
He then had to "massage" the gear into shape.
Anyone hear of this?
The only reason that I do not want to go with the LT4 timing chain is because it is so damn pricey, but at the same time I do not want to cut any corners and buy the cheap quality stuff either just because it is inexpensive.
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From: Jupiter (NPB), Fl
Re: Q about timing chain for LE2 package.
I have not heard of anyone having issues with the cloyes double roller on our cars.
You need to clearance the timing cover some, but that's about it. I'm running one with no problems.
You need to clearance the timing cover some, but that's about it. I'm running one with no problems.
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Re: Q about timing chain for LE2 package.
How much did you have to clearance the cover?
How much did you pay for the chain and the sprockets and where did you purchase it from?
Thanks for the quick reply.
How much did you pay for the chain and the sprockets and where did you purchase it from?
Thanks for the quick reply.
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Re: Q about timing chain for LE2 package.
Cloyes 3145, $79 from summit. 
I took a die grinder and rounded out the inside edges of my timing cover around where the chain would rub, every car is different.
Best bet is to rub some grease on the chain, set your timing cover on the block, rotate the engine and see where it rubs, clearance it, rinse and repeat.
I took a die grinder and rounded out the inside edges of my timing cover around where the chain would rub, every car is different.
Best bet is to rub some grease on the chain, set your timing cover on the block, rotate the engine and see where it rubs, clearance it, rinse and repeat.
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Re: Q about timing chain for LE2 package.
What have you done for the electric water hole in the timing cover? Did you weld that up? Did the new pump come with a plug?
The chain seems to be pretty damn expensive w/the sprockets, for about $349 for the set. I can get the LT4 timing chain set for $299 or less.
The chain seems to be pretty damn expensive w/the sprockets, for about $349 for the set. I can get the LT4 timing chain set for $299 or less.
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Re: Q about timing chain for LE2 package.
Huh? What are you searching for? I gave you the part #3145
http://store.summitracing.com/partde...5&autoview=sku
$79.88 - this includes the chain and two sprockets.
The hole in the timing cover? A quarter and some quick steel seals it right up. Ghetto, but it works. Welding it shut would of course be the better route if you have access to such.
http://store.summitracing.com/partde...5&autoview=sku
$79.88 - this includes the chain and two sprockets.
The hole in the timing cover? A quarter and some quick steel seals it right up. Ghetto, but it works. Welding it shut would of course be the better route if you have access to such.
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Re: Q about timing chain for LE2 package.
I just pulled up this part number from Summit for the 1994-1997 Cloyes Double Roller. $349 for the set
http://store.summitracing.com/partde...5&autoview=sku
http://store.summitracing.com/partde...5&autoview=sku
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Re: Q about timing chain for LE2 package.
Originally Posted by Javier97Z28
Huh? What are you searching for? I gave you the part #3145
http://store.summitracing.com/partde...5&autoview=sku
$79.88 - this includes the chain and two sprockets.
The hole in the timing cover? A quarter and some quick steel seals it right up. Ghetto, but it works. Welding it shut would of course be the better route if you have access to such.
http://store.summitracing.com/partde...5&autoview=sku
$79.88 - this includes the chain and two sprockets.
The hole in the timing cover? A quarter and some quick steel seals it right up. Ghetto, but it works. Welding it shut would of course be the better route if you have access to such.
http://store.summitracing.com/partde...=1#Application
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Re: Q about timing chain for LE2 package.
just believe javier...he has the righ part, your part is for a differant motor i believe the older style i dont even know if that will fit your car...the 79 dollar one is correct
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Re: Q about timing chain for LE2 package.
Sometimes your have to go "pricey". I hated it but "LT4 HD chain" here.
Just like buying stock piston rings (go price 'em). It's a smart punch to the sack but worth it overall.
Just like buying stock piston rings (go price 'em). It's a smart punch to the sack but worth it overall.
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Re: Q about timing chain for LE2 package.
The 3145 is the correct part # for a factory hydraulic roller block SBC. Our LT1s are just that plus the different water pump drive. Going with that set like a lot of us will require the use of an electric water pump.
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Re: Q about timing chain for LE2 package.
Originally Posted by Dan Parker '96
Sometimes your have to go "pricey". I hated it but "LT4 HD chain" here.
Just like buying stock piston rings (go price 'em). It's a smart punch to the sack but worth it overall.
Just like buying stock piston rings (go price 'em). It's a smart punch to the sack but worth it overall.
And there's plenty of aftermarket rings available.
The 3145 is the correct part #, yes it is for gen 1 SBC, there's no such thing as an LT1 specific double roller timing set, mostly due to the water pump. You must convert to an electric pump to run a double roller.
That LT1 specific timing set up tehre is probably the cloyes equivalent to the LT4 ED set, as it is *not* a doulbe roller, picture shows it as if it were, but read the text.
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Re: Q about timing chain for LE2 package.
Originally Posted by Javier97Z28
No, you don't.
And there's plenty of aftermarket rings available.
The 3145 is the correct part #, yes it is for gen 1 SBC, there's no such thing as an LT1 specific double roller timing set, mostly due to the water pump. You must convert to an electric pump to run a double roller.
That LT1 specific timing set up tehre is probably the cloyes equivalent to the LT4 ED set, as it is *not* a doulbe roller, picture shows it as if it were, but read the text.
And there's plenty of aftermarket rings available.
The 3145 is the correct part #, yes it is for gen 1 SBC, there's no such thing as an LT1 specific double roller timing set, mostly due to the water pump. You must convert to an electric pump to run a double roller.
That LT1 specific timing set up tehre is probably the cloyes equivalent to the LT4 ED set, as it is *not* a doulbe roller, picture shows it as if it were, but read the text.
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Re: Q about timing chain for LE2 package.
The reason I questioned your part number because it was not listed under the LT1 engine, but rather gen 1 etc.
So 3145 is NOT a double roller timing chain, but rather a single chain that is basically an OEM replacement timing chain set, right?
So 3145 is NOT a double roller timing chain, but rather a single chain that is basically an OEM replacement timing chain set, right?
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Re: Q about timing chain for LE2 package.
Yeah the double roller chains are for roller block 1 piece seal SBC blocks.
BTW you don't need to clearance them much IF you use the felpro timing chain gasket. That usually gives you the clearance you need but it is always best to check.
Bret
BTW you don't need to clearance them much IF you use the felpro timing chain gasket. That usually gives you the clearance you need but it is always best to check.
Bret
