Panhand Rod
Panhard rods control lateral placement of the rear end in the chassis. The stock panhard rod is weak when it comes to driving the car hard. Using a weak panhard rod develops rear end lateral location problems based on too much deflection. This can make the car feel loose in the rear.
An aftermarket tubular panhard rod will generally include polyurethane bushings, which will limit deflection under hard cornering loads. An aftermarket tubular will most likely be lighter than the stock stamped steel piece, while being stronger, and less susceptible to bending. "Boxing" the stock arm will not solve the soft bushing issue, and will add unneccesary weight.
Some hardcore Auto-X fans do not like the poly bushings, because the increased stiffness can cause "bind" in the rod under extreme displacement of the axle assembly. That problem can be solved by making at least one end of the rod a "spherical rod end". That will increase harshness and noise though.
Some hardcore Auto-X fans do not like the poly bushings, because the increased stiffness can cause "bind" in the rod under extreme displacement of the axle assembly. That problem can be solved by making at least one end of the rod a "spherical rod end". That will increase harshness and noise though.
Again, i think aftermarkets are a waste, sure boxing the stamped steal adds weight, but what are we talking, 2-3 pounds max. If anything that weight will only make your car more nuetrally balenced. You sure as hell wont see a difference in ETs or even lap times (depending on your passion) with 3 pound difference. I boxed mine, total cost zero. JMHO though
Originally posted by Aaronh
Again, i think aftermarkets are a waste, sure boxing the stamped steal adds weight, but what are we talking, 2-3 pounds max. If anything that weight will only make your car more nuetrally balenced. You sure as hell wont see a difference in ETs or even lap times (depending on your passion) with 3 pound difference. I boxed mine, total cost zero. JMHO though
Again, i think aftermarkets are a waste, sure boxing the stamped steal adds weight, but what are we talking, 2-3 pounds max. If anything that weight will only make your car more nuetrally balenced. You sure as hell wont see a difference in ETs or even lap times (depending on your passion) with 3 pound difference. I boxed mine, total cost zero. JMHO though
Originally posted by Aaronh
Again, i think aftermarkets are a waste, sure boxing the stamped steal adds weight, but what are we talking, 2-3 pounds max. If anything that weight will only make your car more nuetrally balenced. You sure as hell wont see a difference in ETs or even lap times (depending on your passion) with 3 pound difference. I boxed mine, total cost zero. JMHO though
Again, i think aftermarkets are a waste, sure boxing the stamped steal adds weight, but what are we talking, 2-3 pounds max. If anything that weight will only make your car more nuetrally balenced. You sure as hell wont see a difference in ETs or even lap times (depending on your passion) with 3 pound difference. I boxed mine, total cost zero. JMHO though
Originally posted by Injuneer
An aftermarket tubular panhard rod will generally include polyurethane bushings, which will limit deflection under hard cornering loads. An aftermarket tubular will most likely be lighter than the stock stamped steel piece, while being stronger, and less susceptible to bending. "Boxing" the stock arm will not solve the soft bushing issue, and will add unneccesary weight.
Some hardcore Auto-X fans do not like the poly bushings, because the increased stiffness can cause "bind" in the rod under extreme displacement of the axle assembly. That problem can be solved by making at least one end of the rod a "spherical rod end". That will increase harshness and noise though.
An aftermarket tubular panhard rod will generally include polyurethane bushings, which will limit deflection under hard cornering loads. An aftermarket tubular will most likely be lighter than the stock stamped steel piece, while being stronger, and less susceptible to bending. "Boxing" the stock arm will not solve the soft bushing issue, and will add unneccesary weight.
Some hardcore Auto-X fans do not like the poly bushings, because the increased stiffness can cause "bind" in the rod under extreme displacement of the axle assembly. That problem can be solved by making at least one end of the rod a "spherical rod end". That will increase harshness and noise though.
Originally posted by 96ta(nick)
if you are going all out though every pound adds up..
if you are going all out though every pound adds up..
Huge money? My aluminum PHB cost $20. Add good rod ends (like QA1's), spacers and the total comes to around $90. Lighter, stiffer than stock and dead quiet. The handling improvement is very noticable.
http://www.jonaadland.com/Z28/Mods/PHB/AluminumPHB.html
http://www.jonaadland.com/Z28/Mods/PHB/AluminumPHB.html
Originally posted by RedHottG2
So should I look at getting one of these for straight line performance if I'm not interested in something like auto-x ?
So should I look at getting one of these for straight line performance if I'm not interested in something like auto-x ?
Boxing your stock rod won't do anything for the ends, which are rubber. I replaced mine because these rubber ends caused the rear end to shift from one side to the other. Sometimes when the car was parked, it caused the rear tires to be shifted to the left, sometimes to the right, other times, not at all. I went with the spherical ends. This made a world of difference and at about $100, it hardly broke the bank, and for once, I felt like I had some control of the rear of the car. Also, if you ever decide to lower the car, chance are you will need an adjustable rod.
Last edited by greensmoke; Mar 12, 2004 at 01:58 PM.


