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From: Clinton, MS
flp makes some really great long tube headers........but they are pretty pricy................if you wanna know more about them....go to........www.thunderracing.com.........they sell them
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From: Austin, TX or Texas State University at San Marcos
what are some good long tube headers? and hopw much do they go for new??? And you guys say i'll gain 20HP with these??
Chris
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From: Austin, TX or Texas State University at San Marcos
Most guys with long tubes dont pass emissions. Just ask most of the guys on the board and they will tell you the same thing. Long tubes give you power but you sacrifice that power for emissions. Somebody chime in and support me with this because i know its true. Thanks. No disrespect smokindastangs 
Thats just what i have learned in my experience on the board.
Chris
Thats just what i have learned in my experience on the board.Chris
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Joined: May 2002
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From: Saskatchewan, Canada
Longtubes move your cat from its origional position. If you have emissions in your area chances are that relocating the cat from its stock position will automatically cause you to fail. I'm not totally sure on this tho cuz I have no emissions here 
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Joined: Jul 2002
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From: Dublin, Ohio
Thanks everyone for the replies...
Sorry I should have included my gear ratio in the first post.
Currently I have 3.23's installed at the moment.
I would like to go with headers but finding a used set to bolt up to the factory y pipe is going to be hard....
But gears are going to run my into the 500 range, because Ill need to recalibrate my PCM for 3.73's.
So It looks like DR's are going to be my best bet.
When I ran the 14.0 I launched the car @ 1100RPM's.
BTW Does anyone have any used headers or other parts for sale that will help me???
Thanks everyone for the replies.....
Sorry I should have included my gear ratio in the first post.
Currently I have 3.23's installed at the moment.
I would like to go with headers but finding a used set to bolt up to the factory y pipe is going to be hard....
But gears are going to run my into the 500 range, because Ill need to recalibrate my PCM for 3.73's.
So It looks like DR's are going to be my best bet.
When I ran the 14.0 I launched the car @ 1100RPM's.
BTW Does anyone have any used headers or other parts for sale that will help me???
Thanks everyone for the replies.....
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Joined: Aug 2002
Posts: 250
From: Homestead, FL
Originally posted by Draco
You could also try an electric water pump. Only about 5-10 hp but for the price it's actually a pretty good hp/$ ratio
I don't see gaining 30hp with headers on an otherwise stock motor.... maybe 20hp with longtubes and 10-15 with shorties on the stock heads/cam.
I wouldn't bother with a new TB until you are in the 350+ rwhp range, unless you find a killer deal.
If you really wan't to get into the 13's at all cost go with gears and/or drag radials.
You could also try an electric water pump. Only about 5-10 hp but for the price it's actually a pretty good hp/$ ratio
I don't see gaining 30hp with headers on an otherwise stock motor.... maybe 20hp with longtubes and 10-15 with shorties on the stock heads/cam.
I wouldn't bother with a new TB until you are in the 350+ rwhp range, unless you find a killer deal.
If you really wan't to get into the 13's at all cost go with gears and/or drag radials.
I disagree with finding 5 to 10 hp with electric water pump.
Maybe 1hp if that.
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Joined: Sep 2002
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From: Crystal Lake, IL
me = not long tubes
Illinois = emissions ******
electric WP wont give you 5-10 at the rear.. mabey at the flywheel
Shortys will still make more power...not as much as LTs unless you go with AS&Ms but those are expensive
Illinois = emissions ******
electric WP wont give you 5-10 at the rear.. mabey at the flywheel
Shortys will still make more power...not as much as LTs unless you go with AS&Ms but those are expensive
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Joined: Dec 2001
Posts: 3,674
From: Chicago, IL
Originally posted by 93Z286Speed
me = not long tubes
Illinois = emissions ******
electric WP wont give you 5-10 at the rear.. mabey at the flywheel
Shortys will still make more power...not as much as LTs unless you go with AS&Ms but those are expensive
me = not long tubes
Illinois = emissions ******
electric WP wont give you 5-10 at the rear.. mabey at the flywheel
Shortys will still make more power...not as much as LTs unless you go with AS&Ms but those are expensive
Mac's are good IMO for the price.
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From: North Vancouver, BC
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