How come everytime someone posts some good results you make comments like these. STFU

Track numbers can not be compared across the country EVER. Different altitudes, air quality, track prep, car weight are all factors. His car is obviously fun to drive and if most of the time is on the street its more than enough. Good work getting it sorted out.

 

Because peak dyno numbers don't mean squat and should always be ignored. There is blatantly too much evidence on this very board of track ET's/mph that do not meet the criteria of the dyno charts posted. You have to admit those are some pretty stout numbers for a hotcam.
Yes track times/mph CAN be used if ALL variables are taken into consideration. I guarandamntee track times can be used as a more accurate tool for estimating hp than a chassis dyno. It's not that I don't believe it. I would just rather see track results to draw my conclusions. That's why I told him to go to HRP. It's virtually at sea level, well prepped and I've raced there before.

 

yea what were the average numbers instead of the peak?

 

The hot cam works great...I went 116-118 with it 7 years ago on a stock 561 head


car was 3050# 4.10 6 spd...

 

There a quite a few folk's that have these high HP car's running crappy #'s and majority of the time it's a driver issue... or they goto the track on street tires... i agree it's b.s but.. the majority of the folk's on here are driving street car's.. So obviously et's are really all that important to them....

 

ETs are the evidence of hard work and a proper set up. High peak HP numbers like you see with big cams dont always mean that cam is gonna make your car faster then then car next to you with the proper cam for your set up. Same goes for Dyno numbers. Its the total package not the peak number that makes the difference.

However those are some really great numbers, and what look to be a nice set up. I can't wait to see what it does on the DRs!! Good work man!

 

This is true about dyno #s, but the way YOU go about telling someone that the #s are not the whole story is a little harsh. I'm sure he already knows, like most of us do, that #s are nice, but it's even better if you can back them up at the track. Or maybe some of the guys don't care about track times. Then what, they aren't allowed to post dyno #s?

 

Well said.

 

Yeah, the extra hundreds of variables you add by taking it to the track make it easier to extrapolate back to HP.

 

I guess you've never seen a good running hotcam car then. Most guys that buy the hotcam kit do it because its cheap and when they get 330rwhp they're happy. Pushed to the limits with ported heads those numbers are right where they should be.

In order to get good track times the car needs to
1. Get traction suspension mods, sticky tires
2. Be geared, stalled properly for the power band and weight of the car
3. Have a driver thats ran the car many times and is comfortable with it



I'm glad I'm not the only one getting tired of his comments.

 

not saying the #'s are not good, but peak #'s are just that , peak #'s. It really depends on how the graph looks. Track times do tell the ultimate story though

 

I think the real power is your 11:1 355 setup. The Hotcam is good for about 40 HP with good heads. I don't know how 11:1 and/or an extra 5 c.i. can make over 50 RWHP more than I got from my hotcam, LT4 intake and LT4 heads. But I'll assume you have the golden touch to make gold out of straw.

 

track time's don't.. MPH does.. unless there are a few missed shift's or even wrong shift point's all have a effect on MPH and ET's.. so that being said both are good method's of measuring vehicle performance.. but.. they both have they're + and -

 

what's the details on your LT4 heads? factory castings? if so, that's your issue...

 

Sorry, but I call Bull $hit. Those numbers may be right where they should be based on his vehicle and the fact that he says that's what they are. But those numbers are not average numbers for the hot cam with mild heads and mid-tubes. Most people that have the hot cam do not have 11:1 CR or 355s ,etc. The hot cam probably peaks before 6 grand and yet this instance shows 390 or whatever at over 6 grand.

This is not a flame. This is not to say that I do not believe the numbers reported. This is merely my opinoin regarding the notion by several responders that these numbers are easily attainable with the such a small cam, in general.

Bottom line is that I would really like to know how those numbers came to be so that I can get the same or similar numbers. And I am sure that is where many others are coming from. JMHO

Thanks.