MAP low voltage even with new MAP sensor
MAP low voltage even with new MAP sensor
My car is acting up, relatively stock 130k miles. It keeps setting ses light for MAP low voltage. I scanned it a couple times and noticed the map reading seemed ok. I forgot exact numbers but 101 w/ engine off and at WOT and like 50-60 at idle.
I replaced the map sensor and once again got the code.
I have had problems three times now, the ses light will come on, then the car won't rev w/ throttle input and it will eventually die.
I am thinking it is an electrical problem and maybe a loose wire because otherwise it works fine. The harness seems ok.
Any ideas?
I replaced the map sensor and once again got the code.
I have had problems three times now, the ses light will come on, then the car won't rev w/ throttle input and it will eventually die.
I am thinking it is an electrical problem and maybe a loose wire because otherwise it works fine. The harness seems ok.
Any ideas?
To start, I would data log the car while driving and examine a trace of the MAP voltage signal. See what's its doing and then post back. The diagnostic is most likely an X out of Y counter. Basically, the DTC shows up when there is a MAP voltage below a calibrated value for X fails counts out of Y samples.
Post back with what you find.
Post back with what you find.
Last edited by irocbsa; Jun 14, 2008 at 01:44 PM.
The code sets when the sensor voltage drops below 0.24V on 45 out of 50 samples. The PCM uses every MAP reading as a "sample", and the rate is once every 6.25 milliseconds. But it only checks the MAP readings when the TPP is over 15%.
0.24V corresponds to less than 10kPA (a vacuum over 26"Hg). The normal minimum voltage the sensor is capable of producing is 0.30V. That would point to a short to ground. Obviously there is no way to see 26"Hg with the throttle at 15%, even on coast-down.
The MAP sensor harness connectors seem to crumble with old age, allowing shorts and intremittent readings. Have you checked the connector for damage? Did you try hooking up a volt meter, and jiggling the connector to see if the voltage fluctuates?
0.24V corresponds to less than 10kPA (a vacuum over 26"Hg). The normal minimum voltage the sensor is capable of producing is 0.30V. That would point to a short to ground. Obviously there is no way to see 26"Hg with the throttle at 15%, even on coast-down.
The MAP sensor harness connectors seem to crumble with old age, allowing shorts and intremittent readings. Have you checked the connector for damage? Did you try hooking up a volt meter, and jiggling the connector to see if the voltage fluctuates?
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