Longtubes causing 02 sensors to go out????
Originally posted by Wild1
Here's a thought... if the longtubes scavenge more, perhaps they are pulling more through the MAF. If the MAF is getting wierd numbers, that will affect the BLMs and A/F Mixture. What is your MAF reading? Increasing the values richens the mixture, lower values lean... correct me if I'm wrong.
Here's a thought... if the longtubes scavenge more, perhaps they are pulling more through the MAF. If the MAF is getting wierd numbers, that will affect the BLMs and A/F Mixture. What is your MAF reading? Increasing the values richens the mixture, lower values lean... correct me if I'm wrong.
95 Silver TA, what do your BLMs read in all the cells? mainly cells 02, 06, 10 and 14? by just decreasing your MAF values...that will fix low BLMs. also i got a real bad split in my BLMs when one of my O2 sensors bit the dust so if you havent replaced yours yet then id start there first.
Originally posted by turbo_Z
95 Silver TA, what do your BLMs read in all the cells? mainly cells 02, 06, 10 and 14? by just decreasing your MAF values...that will fix low BLMs. also i got a real bad split in my BLMs when one of my O2 sensors bit the dust so if you havent replaced yours yet then id start there first.
95 Silver TA, what do your BLMs read in all the cells? mainly cells 02, 06, 10 and 14? by just decreasing your MAF values...that will fix low BLMs. also i got a real bad split in my BLMs when one of my O2 sensors bit the dust so if you havent replaced yours yet then id start there first.
Thanks for the advise..Its much appreciated!
Claude
Originally posted by Wild1
Here's a thought... if the longtubes scavenge more, perhaps they are pulling more through the MAF. If the MAF is getting wierd numbers, that will affect the BLMs and A/F Mixture. What is your MAF reading? Increasing the values richens the mixture, lower values lean... correct me if I'm wrong.
Here's a thought... if the longtubes scavenge more, perhaps they are pulling more through the MAF. If the MAF is getting wierd numbers, that will affect the BLMs and A/F Mixture. What is your MAF reading? Increasing the values richens the mixture, lower values lean... correct me if I'm wrong.
I've been around cars for decades, but I'm new to the LT1 Edit list. I was reading about the MAF values being altered from the manufacturer specifications. Apparantly, if the G/PS reading on the MAF is affected out of spec due to modifications to the intake, exhaust, cam, head, etc... it will alter the reading of the MAF out of spec. While the data from the MAF is true, it's values will not comply with the matrix of the PCM. So the MAF values must be raised or dropped to comply with the PCM... which will result in BLMs reading 128 (or as close as possible). BLMs meaning your long term fuel trim.
I would still consider myself new to edit. But to follow up on the MAF, I've been reading that any adjustment to the MAF may recalibrate itself into a norm operation. I really haven't tinkered with the MAF but I can confirm that Longtubes affect the O2s. If .920 is norm on and O2 with stock manifolds, that would equate to .870 on Longtubes. So, if the programming is raised to bring the O2s on longtubes up to .920, then they would be running very rich... possible foul out? O2s work best when they are hot, that's why they are typically close to the exhaust port or collector. However, longtubes have the collector far away which will affect the temps of the O2s.
TTT for ya.
TTT for ya.
well I've solved my problem with new pre-cat 02's, I suspect mine were original which are good for 50k miles from what the autoparts stated. Car runs like a beast again. This time I also soldered my 02 extensions vs butt connectors on the stock 02's. I probably could use a dynotune since this car breathes so open now compared to stock. I didn't realize opening these LT1's up with CAI, longtubes & Borla would make it run rich but be what it may it works now, see how long it lasts. Wish I could have found AC Delco's vs Bosch from what I've read but it's all I could get in time.
Andyone ever figure anything out? I seem to have the same problem. Sensors that after about a month and a half start to go lazy and the car runing with low 108 blms.
Hey ryaskovic, did your timing trick work or not?? Just wondering.
Jason
Hey ryaskovic, did your timing trick work or not?? Just wondering.
Jason
Nope, nothing new here. This last set of O2s that I installed do seem to be lasting a bit longer but I'm not counting my chickens just yet. Overall the car is having issues that I haven't gotten to the bottom of. Something's just not right and I haven't been able to figure out what.
Rob
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Rob
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