just mufflers or whole exhaust system..?
Where are you located? That should tell you to get stainless or not. Do they salt the roads, do you drive on the beach, is it crazy humid, do you live near salt water, are the old cars and trucks rusting away where you live? If more than one of these apply then I would get stainless. I live in humid Houston and I work on Galveston Island and my Hooker held up fine. Your choice on which catback but I would get the whole enchilada. Do some searches on the different sounds of both of these systems.
think about this.......
1. i had stock exhaust so i got a flowmaster muffler, woohoo....$150 for muffler+ labor
2. a few months later, i decided to get a cutout....$50 cutout + labor
3. then i got some shorty headers and got rid of the cat...., so after that the cutout was too loud when it was open, so i wanted a different muffler $300
4. next was the Dynomax UltraFlow.... $100 for the muffler and labor.
5. then i didn't like the UltraFlow so I went back to the Flowmaster and ran full 3" exhaust. still had the muffler so that only ran me about $230 to get them swapped back out and get the new pipe welded up.
6. then i decided to get long tubes....$500 installed them myself...
7. then i needed exhaust for the long tubes and I ran true duals w/ an x-pipe and Dynomax bullets... $300 by the time I bought all of the parts+3" pipe and had it all welded.
That's how my exhaust sits now. so I spent about a total of $1630 just on f***in exhaust. I'm just trying to make some people think before they make decisions. Now granted I did sell a lot of this stuff and got some money back out of it but for what i've spent, this stupid exhaust should be gold or something. Whole point is I wish I would have just waited and did everything at once. Would have saved me a lot of money and hell of a lot of time. By the way, these are just guesses and its probably more than this. Not to mention, I'm sure I forgot some stuff somewhere also, hehe. Good luck with whatever you decide.
Michael
1. i had stock exhaust so i got a flowmaster muffler, woohoo....$150 for muffler+ labor
2. a few months later, i decided to get a cutout....$50 cutout + labor
3. then i got some shorty headers and got rid of the cat...., so after that the cutout was too loud when it was open, so i wanted a different muffler $300
4. next was the Dynomax UltraFlow.... $100 for the muffler and labor.
5. then i didn't like the UltraFlow so I went back to the Flowmaster and ran full 3" exhaust. still had the muffler so that only ran me about $230 to get them swapped back out and get the new pipe welded up.
6. then i decided to get long tubes....$500 installed them myself...
7. then i needed exhaust for the long tubes and I ran true duals w/ an x-pipe and Dynomax bullets... $300 by the time I bought all of the parts+3" pipe and had it all welded.
That's how my exhaust sits now. so I spent about a total of $1630 just on f***in exhaust. I'm just trying to make some people think before they make decisions. Now granted I did sell a lot of this stuff and got some money back out of it but for what i've spent, this stupid exhaust should be gold or something. Whole point is I wish I would have just waited and did everything at once. Would have saved me a lot of money and hell of a lot of time. By the way, these are just guesses and its probably more than this. Not to mention, I'm sure I forgot some stuff somewhere also, hehe. Good luck with whatever you decide.
Michael
hehe gold plated thats funny for some reason....
ok well i think im going to be going djk19 idea and go with magnaflow off ebay for the full stainless steel ones. ill let yall know how it turns out and post a sound clip or 2
also is this one good right here..? Magnaflow
ok well i think im going to be going djk19 idea and go with magnaflow off ebay for the full stainless steel ones. ill let yall know how it turns out and post a sound clip or 2
also is this one good right here..? Magnaflow
Last edited by 97BBlackZ; Jul 25, 2003 at 01:05 PM.
AWESOME! Man you found the same deal I think. I got it for 275 shipped so if the shipping is only 25 then your in Biz. Man. I don't know how they sell this system so damn cheap! It is freakin badass. The tips are better then many you find out there and the sound is nice. It is quiet when you want it to be but when you floor it.... it gets Mean Quick
I have heard my car next to a borla and I thinka borla is just too damn loud*
That picture shows the system without the clamps holding the pieces together. The sytem comes in a bunch of pieces and there are clamps that hold everything together. There is a a clamp for the over axle pipe so you can take it back apart if necessery without dropping the rear end (flowmaster usually doesn't give you that option) And some clamps holding the pipes to the muffler etc. Everything is stainless and beutiful. I had it welded directly to the CAT and my cutout is somwhere near under the rear passenger seat.
I know when it comes to any camaro project you must think of every aspect and buy everythign you need and do it ALL at once. It saves you a bundle down the road if your like me and can't resist temptation for cool toys.
I have heard my car next to a borla and I thinka borla is just too damn loud* That picture shows the system without the clamps holding the pieces together. The sytem comes in a bunch of pieces and there are clamps that hold everything together. There is a a clamp for the over axle pipe so you can take it back apart if necessery without dropping the rear end (flowmaster usually doesn't give you that option) And some clamps holding the pipes to the muffler etc. Everything is stainless and beutiful. I had it welded directly to the CAT and my cutout is somwhere near under the rear passenger seat.
I know when it comes to any camaro project you must think of every aspect and buy everythign you need and do it ALL at once. It saves you a bundle down the road if your like me and can't resist temptation for cool toys.
There are a couple of misconceptions that keep popping up on this board. One is that the stock system isn't mandrel bent. It is mandrel bent. The stock system also is indeed stainless steel. It just happens to be 409 stainless, which will develop surface rust. This is a natural occurence with 409 stainless, as the rust stays at the surface. Not too pretty after a while, but it's a pretty low-cost stainless.
As to your question, the stock muffler is where the majority of the restriction is in the OEM cat-back. If you want the most gain for the least money, replace the muffler with something less restrictive. Replacing the rest of the cat-back will gain you nothing additional for mild mods and a little additional for more extensive modifications.
As to your question, the stock muffler is where the majority of the restriction is in the OEM cat-back. If you want the most gain for the least money, replace the muffler with something less restrictive. Replacing the rest of the cat-back will gain you nothing additional for mild mods and a little additional for more extensive modifications.
hehe ya the only thang i dont like about it is the tips but i know i can get other ones welded on which i will do!
Should i buy the other tips also though but i dont have enough money for the tips & muffles and installing it( i hate the round tips on a camaro and and thing only the slashed ones should be on em
) ... i am also planning on gettin a cut out so does this sound good
Get the system have it installed..
Then later on down the road get the cut out and the tips installed so atleast im saving some money and not getting the tips and the cut out installed sep.
btw its will be theses tips Tips
Should i buy the other tips also though but i dont have enough money for the tips & muffles and installing it( i hate the round tips on a camaro and and thing only the slashed ones should be on em
) ... i am also planning on gettin a cut out so does this sound goodGet the system have it installed..
Then later on down the road get the cut out and the tips installed so atleast im saving some money and not getting the tips and the cut out installed sep.
btw its will be theses tips Tips
eww now it's all a matter of preference. I am going to leave my high polished magna-tips alone because i get a lot of compliments on them and somthting nice is that they go almost all the way back to the muffler instead of oonly being 6 inches long or so and only going back that far then you see the pipe underneath... It wouldn't matter if you had a body kit though because it would hide the rest of the pipe underneath so you could only see the very tip.
rockon
rockon
i thought about an electric cut out.. but then im not that lazy
and i hear the electric ones motors break alot.. and not onyl that you have to find someone that knows how to install it.
and i hear the electric ones motors break alot.. and not onyl that you have to find someone that knows how to install it.
installing it is as easy as bolting the plate back on but you just have to run a wire up to your console. (easy stuff) The problem they have aren't really the motors as long as you check them every once in a while. the problems lie in the sealing of the units. Mine came with a small leak and I am going to try to seal it off. with more red rtv. It is a pinhole but even that can mess thigns up and cause truble down the road. I head most of them are made out of basements... It's more of a cool trick thing to do to a car then hgih performance because it relaly is only good for the track and then a non electric would be fine... oh well.
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