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Old Feb 27, 2003 | 10:07 AM
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i know the cam i want but lets talk LSA

ive made a decision on the cam. i know i wont the 230/236XH .585 lift with 1.5rr and i will use 1.5rr. but lets talk LSA.

we put a 230/236 .544 lift with 1.6rr and it dont make enough lope for me, and i also i want the power band narrower and higher becuase i have a m6 and can shift where i please. and they say a 110lsa makes power at higher rpms than say a 114.
but when they both peak the 110 will make a little more power than 114.

so far from everything ive read about a smaller lsa seems to describes what i want. but my question is...is a 108 to much or would a 110 be better. because im going off what my buddys sounds like. and will my brakes still work. i dont mind a canister

im seriously thinking a 108. by the way it will be with ported heads.

so if anyone has opinions on this, or has experiance with a 108 in these cars. please share the info

please keep my 4.10s in mind because i think it will help drivability

thanks agian guys.
Old Feb 27, 2003 | 10:19 AM
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Re: i know the cam i want but lets talk LSA

Originally posted by 97Z-M6
ive made a decision on the cam. i know i wont the 230/236XH .585 lift with 1.5rr and i will use 1.5rr. but lets talk LSA.

we put a 230/236 .544 lift with 1.6rr and it dont make enough lope for me, and i also i want the power band narrower and higher becuase i have a m6 and can shift where i please. and they say a 110lsa makes power at higher rpms than say a 114.
but when they both peak the 110 will make a little more power than 114.

so far from everything ive read about a smaller lsa seems to describes what i want. but my question is...is a 108 to much or would a 110 be better. because im going off what my buddys sounds like. and will my brakes still work. i dont mind a canister

im seriously thinking a 108. by the way it will be with ported heads.

so if anyone has opinions on this, or has experiance with a 108 in these cars. please share the info

please keep my 4.10s in mind because i think it will help drivability

thanks agian guys.
Muhahahaha!

My friend has a solid-roller 23x/24x @ 108 LSA in his Fox-body GT with Ported Canfield Heads and a carb. Car goes 10.70s on a little bit of giggle-gas @ full weight with a C4.

I keep wondering why he's spraying a motor with so much valve overlap, but it seems to run fast, anyway

Try it.. You might like it

I wouldn't be scared to do it with a 6-speed or a very high stall.

Yeah, I'd bet that you'd need a vaccuum canister, especially on a stock-displacement motor.

Mike
Old Feb 27, 2003 | 11:01 AM
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Re: i know the cam i want but lets talk LSA

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and they say a 110lsa makes power at higher rpms than say a 114. but when they both peak the 110 will make a little more power than 114.
so does sound correct because this partly what im going off of.

if a 110 make power than a 114, then a 108 has got to be better
Old Feb 27, 2003 | 12:43 PM
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is this info correct.

anybody here have a cam on a 108 on there lt1.
Old Feb 27, 2003 | 03:26 PM
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I think 108 is to much your idle is going to suck. And i bet you will stall out quite a bit.
Old Feb 27, 2003 | 04:30 PM
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Most people go with 112-114 LSA for street cars. A cam with 112 LSA will lope way more than a 114 LSA cam. The 114 sounds a lot better than stock and the 112 lopes its a$$ off. As was said earlier, the lower you go, the more idle problems you will have. I believe you will also have emissions problems with a narrower (numerically lower) LSA cam, if you need to pass the sniffer.

Hope this helps,
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Old Feb 27, 2003 | 04:46 PM
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Less overlap doesn't mean more power, only to a certain extent. Some magazine did a test on it a while back between 106,108,110,112,114, the 108 and 110 made almost indentical peak power while the 106 lost power. Remember though peak number aren't everything a 110 might make a few extra horsepower up top at the sacrifice of a bit on low end torque. The 110 is gonna be slower off the line since you won't have as much torque as a 114 which will consequently be faster off the line, so though the 110 might make more peak power it won't necessarily equate to a quicker time at the track. If you're street go 114, might still be able to pass emission and will keep your lowend torque.
Good luck
Old Feb 27, 2003 | 05:57 PM
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so your saying a 110 will lope alot more than a 112. well my buddy has a 112 and i doesnt lope near enough for me. and i dont want to install the cam and not like it, and im really not concernd about torqe that much becusae i can run the rpms to where i want. i normaly shift at 3000 or 3200 daily driving anyway.

i wish i could hear a video or sound clip of a 230/236 on a 110. hint hint.

and i dont have to worry about emmisions.
Old Feb 27, 2003 | 06:09 PM
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If you're looking for it to sound good and don't care about lowend or emissions then there's no reason not to have it put on a 108 grind. One word of caution though, a guy I was talking to the other day had a 236/236 .585 cam and floated his valves into the pistons from revving a few hundred to high. It didn't do any damage however he noticed nicks in the tops of the pistons when he went to redo his motor. Just make sure you're running a good spring.
Old Feb 27, 2003 | 06:29 PM
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if you go 108 maybe you should step down to a 224/230 since its the lope you are after anyway....not the power.
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