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Old May 26, 2006 | 10:49 PM
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How does oil get onto cylinder wall?

I was just wondering how oil gets onto the cylinder wall to keep everything smooth. Does the piston actually dip into the oil and oil gets on the rings or is it something else?
Old May 26, 2006 | 10:54 PM
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Re: How does oil get onto cylinder wall?

oil pump kind of forces it up there..
Old May 26, 2006 | 10:54 PM
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Within the engine is a variety of pathways for oil to be sent to moving parts. These pathways are designed to deliver the same pressure of fresh lubricating oil to all parts. If the pathways become clogged, the affected parts will lock together. This usually destroys parts that are not lubricated, and often ruins the entire engine.

The oil passages are cleverly drilled into the connecting parts of the engine, which allows the highly mobile ones (like the pistons) to have ample lubrication. Originating at the oil pump, they flow through all of the major components of the engine. In the case of the pistons and rods, the passages are designed to open each time the holes in the crankshaft and rods align.

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Old May 26, 2006 | 11:01 PM
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Re: How does oil get onto cylinder wall?

Originally Posted by OBE1 95Z28
Oil is splashed on the lower part of the cylinder walls by the crank spinning; the lower rings then carry it up the cylinder wall.
Just out of curiousity, is it from the crank's oil gallories that splash oil onto the walls as it spins or the crank hitting the oil in the oil pan that come up and hit the cylinder walls? No hurry I am just wondering.
Old May 26, 2006 | 11:02 PM
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Re: How does oil get onto cylinder wall?

Read my edited version above.
Old May 26, 2006 | 11:06 PM
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Re: How does oil get onto cylinder wall?

Originally Posted by OBE1 95Z28
Read my edited version above.
Sorry I asked that and didn't realize you answered it. So basically the oil in the pan does nothing for lubricating, it is only when the oil pump pushes the oil into the passage ways. Does the crank even hit the oil sitting in the oil pan?
Old May 26, 2006 | 11:17 PM
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Re: How does oil get onto cylinder wall?

Originally Posted by djm_e22
Sorry I asked that and didn't realize you answered it. So basically the oil in the pan does nothing for lubricating, it is only when the oil pump pushes the oil into the passage ways. Does the crank even hit the oil sitting in the oil pan?
It is not supposed to.
Old May 27, 2006 | 09:19 AM
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Re: How does oil get onto cylinder wall?

Originally Posted by djm_e22
Sorry I asked that and didn't realize you answered it. So basically the oil in the pan does nothing for lubricating, it is only when the oil pump pushes the oil into the passage ways. Does the crank even hit the oil sitting in the oil pan?
When it does, it's called parasitic drag. When the crankshaft contacts the oil in the pan it adds resistance to the crank rotating; thus wasting HP. This is why high-end engines have "knife-edged" cranks, to reduce this parasitic drag as much as possible.
Old May 27, 2006 | 09:24 AM
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Re: How does oil get onto cylinder wall?

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When it does, it's called parasitic drag. When the crankshaft contacts the oil in the pan it adds resistance to the crank rotating; thus wasting HP. This is why high-end engines have "knife-edged" cranks, to reduce this parasitic drag as much as possible.
Ahhh I see. I do remember the word parasitic drag, and never knew what it meant. Well thanks for all of ya'lls help. I asked several people and no one could answer so I decided to come to my good ole friends on camaroz28.com. Thanks again.
Old May 27, 2006 | 09:57 AM
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Re: How does oil get onto cylinder wall?

Another way things are lubed is the oil being forced to the cam and crank gets slung out, when something is spinning even say just the 400rpms a cam does at idle oil isn't dripping stright down off of it. Imagine the coverage a dog and get just shaking, now imagine what oil is doing coming off the crank spinning at 5000rpms.
Old May 28, 2006 | 10:56 AM
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Re: How does oil get onto cylinder wall?

Originally Posted by 97FormulaWS-6
When it does, it's called parasitic drag. When the crankshaft contacts the oil in the pan it adds resistance to the crank rotating; thus wasting HP. This is why high-end engines have "knife-edged" cranks, to reduce this parasitic drag as much as possible.

I believe the edges are knife edged to reduce windage. If your crank actually hit the oil in the pan it will froth up. The crank can aerate the oil even without physically touching oil in the pan. That is why many engines have windage trays.

Here's a little experiment fill sink with water and punch it as fast as you can (only hit the water without hitting the sink) now imagine your crank doing that a few thousand times a second.


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Old May 28, 2006 | 01:25 PM
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Re: How does oil get onto cylinder wall?

Make sure you film that experiment though and post it on the boards.

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Old May 28, 2006 | 02:14 PM
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Make sure you film that experiment though and post it on the boards.

Steve
and make sure your camera has a bag over it
Old May 28, 2006 | 02:47 PM
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Re: How does oil get onto cylinder wall?

the cylinder walls are lubed from excess oil splashed from the rod bearings/journals while the crank is rotating. if your crank counter weights are contacting the oil in the pan, youve got big problems.
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