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Old Dec 9, 2006 | 06:13 PM
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what the hell did they use to tighten that filter anyway? the long flathead screwdriver/hammer (carpenter hammer.. not a rubber mallet) should do the trick. If not then you can bend down the filter, find the bolts holding the oil filter adapter plate onto the block and unbolt it that way. Not sure how you'd get it off after that. Perhaps just buy a new adapter.
Old Dec 9, 2006 | 06:15 PM
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What happens if you pull straight down on the metal edge where the gasket is? Does it pull away from where the gasket seals or just stick to it? That will tell you if it is the threads causing the problem or the stuck gasket.
Old Dec 9, 2006 | 06:22 PM
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Holy crap!! I've never seen a filter that was that destroyed and didn't come off. I think if you just keep doing what your doing it HAS to come off. If you get anymore of the filter off you'll be able to just remove the whole adaptor by removing the two bolts that hold it in place. Then I might just buy a new adaptor at that point depending on what shape it's in.

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Old Dec 9, 2006 | 06:39 PM
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What happens if you pull straight down on the metal edge where the gasket is? Does it pull away from where the gasket seals or just stick to it? That will tell you if it is the threads causing the problem or the stuck gasket.
i can't get any of the outer to budge so i am pretty sure it is the gasket that is causing my trouble, so i figured i would get around that buy separating the outer section from the inner, and then using a vice grip to unscrew whats on the thread.

however, the problem i am having is that the chisel method is taking forever, i have only cut through 1/5 of the circumference around the thread, is there any other tool i can use to cut around the thread without damaging the block or anything else i need down there??
Old Dec 9, 2006 | 06:40 PM
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Holy crap!! I've never seen a filter that was that destroyed and didn't come off. I think if you just keep doing what your doing it HAS to come off. If you get anymore of the filter off you'll be able to just remove the whole adaptor by removing the two bolts that hold it in place. Then I might just buy a new adaptor at that point depending on what shape it's in.

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do you have any idea relatively which side of the block (location behind the oil filter) the 2 bolts are at??
Old Dec 9, 2006 | 06:50 PM
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im thinking some thin nosed vice grips.. stick em in those holes, clamp it, and give some good tuggin.. this looks like something i would have done
Old Dec 9, 2006 | 07:34 PM
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When you get it off, and get over the frustration...

You should post those pics on some other forum and tell people you started the car up and heard a big "bang" and then there was oil under the car and you found that...
Old Dec 9, 2006 | 08:51 PM
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It's rare that I actually laugh out loud at something on here but that's freakin' hilarious! I can see the 18 pages of ridiculous commentary and "root-cause analysis" already....that's awesome man...would be quite entertaining.
Old Dec 9, 2006 | 09:05 PM
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If you dont mind buying a new adapter you can take a dremel, or air hammer to it. That should make quick work of whats left of it. I cant believe that thing hasnt budged yet!

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Old Dec 10, 2006 | 05:08 AM
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It would be funny if all this time he was actually just turning it in the wrong direction.
Old Dec 10, 2006 | 06:10 AM
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It would be funny if all this time he was actually just turning it in the wrong direction.
You guys are cruel...funny...but cruel.

For next time: I found a swipe of grease on the seal and only tightening hand tight is the best way to keep from getting these issues.

I vote the chisel method. Unfortunately, that top part is thicker stamped steel so it is difficult to pull that seal away from the seating area
Old Dec 10, 2006 | 07:51 AM
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Something that I've done before in a situation similar to yours and it worked, screw two "self tapping" bolts (maybe 5/16" x 2" long) into two of the holes in the filter plate. Then fabricate some form of T-bar on a shaft that will engage to two bolts and then you can place some real torque on the filter plate.

You may ruin the bypass plate (tips of the bolts may hit the plate) but that is cheap. Be sure to put some grease on the gasket next time and don't over tighten it.

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Old Dec 10, 2006 | 08:12 AM
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YOU NEED TO MAKE A TOOL LIKE THESE OTHER GUYS SAID , A MIN OF 3 SHORT RODS OR BOLTS WELDED TO A SHORT HANDLE or you gunna end up cost yourself more money and madness
Old Dec 10, 2006 | 08:28 AM
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Originally Posted by steve9899
When you get it off, and get over the frustration...

You should post those pics on some other forum and tell people you started the car up and heard a big "bang" and then there was oil under the car and you found that...
Be sure to say you had noticed the oil pressure being higher than normal before this happened.

I think I would carefully use a dremel to cut between the holes and flush clean the base afterwards. I'm all but positive the filter is stuck at the gasket. Once the outer ring is free the threaded part should spin right off as said above.

Some people don't realize filters are to be one hand tightened and they should coat the rubber gasket with clean oil before installing. Although I've seen a lot of threads about this situation, this is the first (and best) with the pictures.
Old Dec 10, 2006 | 11:33 AM
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Some people don't realize filters are to be one hand tightened and they should coat the rubber gasket with clean oil before installing. Although I've seen a lot of threads about this situation, this is the first (and best) with the pictures.
That is the problem, i usually always fill up the oil filter and lube the top with some oil before "hand tightening", but I did not install this oil filter, the freaking shop did that tried to do a second rebuild on my motor, but they made things worse, so i didn't even have to pay the shop since they knew they did such a bad job putting it together, and then i have this problem since they way overtightened the filter and probably didn't even lube the top. Plus I always use the tall Mobil filters and they used this small POS mighty one or whatever its called.

I figured i was stuck and had to post pics to see if anyone had any easier methods, even I look at the filter and just say OMFG as i try to work it off.



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