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Old Oct 18, 2006 | 04:26 PM
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Angry help! cannot get oil filter off

i've been pushing as hard as i can and the thing is starting to crush. i'm moving it in the opposite direction (counter clockwise) wtf is going on?

am i turning in the wrong direction? the tighten arrows on the filter (FRAM) point clockwise so i'm lost???? i'm turning away from the tranny towards the front of the car.

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Old Oct 18, 2006 | 04:29 PM
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Re: help! cannot get oil filter off

Are you using a strap wrench or your bare hands. Your going in the right direction, try using a oil filter wrench if you aren't already doing so. The problem with those Frams is that it is very easy to over-tighten them with that gripping that are on the bottom of the filter. Be more careful tightening and put a coat of oil or grease on the gasket next time.
Old Oct 18, 2006 | 04:37 PM
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drive a screwdriver through it and turn it with that if nothing else works..... AND DONT USE A FRAM FILTER!!! use AC Delco. Frams dont have that check valve in them and when u start your car it runs with no oil for a second which is bad
Old Oct 18, 2006 | 04:39 PM
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Re: help! cannot get oil filter off

i'm using a strap wrench, but it still won't move. the bottom half of the filter is getting crushed. even the wrench is staring to bend. i always put a bed of oil on there but the car wasn't driven in over year and this thing refuses to come loose. getting nervous with the filter crushing.
Old Oct 18, 2006 | 05:03 PM
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You can try a small chisil at the base,just dont mess up the base.Or,as mentioned before,poke a screwdriver thru it at the top...you are putting a new one on anyhow.
Old Oct 18, 2006 | 05:23 PM
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Like they said, poke the screw driver through it. If That doesn't work it's time to get out the chisel.
Old Oct 18, 2006 | 05:35 PM
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got it off....jammed a thick screwdriver in through it and slipped a pipe over the handle for leverage. what son of a bitch!!! i cannot understand how that got so fused on there. last oil change i did was jul 05, but i've only driven like 1,000 miles since. anyway thanks for the help guys.
Old Oct 18, 2006 | 05:37 PM
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Re: help! cannot get oil filter off

i have one of those oil filter wrenches that looks like a small bowl

works everytime
Old Oct 18, 2006 | 05:49 PM
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Re: help! cannot get oil filter off

In my earlier ignorance, I put a FRAM oil filter on my LT1. I had the same difficult time removing it.... same results as you had. I've been changing oil filters for 40 years, and never had a problem like that. When I finally got it off, the threads in the FRAM were so poorly cut that they had galled on the filter adapter mounting threads.

After that experience, a couple earlier leaks with FRAM's and the online comparison that shows that the FRAM is really a piece of junk with cardboard ends held together with string, I never bought another one.
Old Oct 18, 2006 | 05:57 PM
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The only thing that the black grip stuff is good for on those filters is exactly the problem you had. When I was a mechanic, EVERY Fram filter with the black grip stuff was over tightened. Some people have a tendency to over tighten filters, it's really easy to do with those filters.
Old Oct 18, 2006 | 08:27 PM
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I jammed a screw driver through a fram once after crushing it and the bottom 3/4 sheared off with a breaker bar. Same gauled threads as Injuneer mentioned. Never again went with the fram and I have never had the problem again.


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Old Oct 18, 2006 | 08:41 PM
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i've never really had a problem with fram filters. i always thought they were some of the best??
Old Oct 18, 2006 | 08:42 PM
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i can vouch for frams sucking, they always give me a hard time at work.
Old Oct 18, 2006 | 09:30 PM
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Re: help! cannot get oil filter off

For those of you guys going anywhere using Quaker State or Pennzoil filters (Speed Lube and Jiffy Lube being the two biggest chains prolly)....Those used to be Fram filter internals.

I am pretty sure they still are, but since my shop switched from Quaker state filters, I can't confirm that anymore.

Just a little FYI
Old Oct 18, 2006 | 09:45 PM
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Re: help! cannot get oil filter off

Originally Posted by johnny3986
For those of you guys going anywhere using Quaker State or Pennzoil filters (Speed Lube and Jiffy Lube being the two biggest chains prolly)....Those used to be Fram filter internals.

I am pretty sure they still are, but since my shop switched from Quaker state filters, I can't confirm that anymore.

Just a little FYI
yes, Jiffy Lube in NC uses Pennzoil filters, which are made by Fram, and sometimes even come in Fram boxes, same as the air filters they use



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