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Old Jan 24, 2006 | 06:24 PM
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Plumbing a spring oiling sys. woudln't be that hard.. Would i just plumb from a oil supply source out of the block w/ a restrictor in line?
Any pressure feed will work and NO... no restrictor.

Keep in mind that you're going to need valve covers with oilers in them and that usually bumps the price ~$200. If you need a source, let me know.

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Old Jan 24, 2006 | 06:41 PM
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Re: Head's Finally Showed up...

Originally Posted by Mindgame
Any pressure feed will work and NO... no restrictor.

Keep in mind that you're going to need valve covers with oilers in them and that usually bumps the price ~$200. If you need a source, let me know.

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This sounds like a good idea for my build. At what stage of the game would you need soemthing like this?. I'll be going with a 383SR Built by Bret.
Old Jan 24, 2006 | 06:58 PM
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When?

Don't know exactly how to answer that one but I'll take a stab....

Road racing, autocrossing, frequent drag racing, high lift camshafts (.600+) and/or high velocity cam lobes, high spring pressures 175+ seat.

Hey, anything where the spring takes a lot of abuse and sees alot of heat. Anything where you'd like to keep a set of springs alive longer .

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Old Jan 24, 2006 | 07:06 PM
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Re: Head's Finally Showed up...

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When?

Don't know exactly how to answer that one but I'll take a stab....

Road racing, autocrossing, frequent drag racing, high lift camshafts (.600+) and/or high velocity cam lobes, high spring pressures 175+ seat.

Hey, anything where the spring takes a lot of abuse and sees alot of heat. Anything where you'd like to keep a set of springs alive longer .

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That will work for me. I guess I begetting one of these too.
Old Jan 24, 2006 | 07:56 PM
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Re: Head's Finally Showed up...

Originally Posted by Mindgame
Any pressure feed will work and NO... no restrictor.

Keep in mind that you're going to need valve covers with oilers in them and that usually bumps the price ~$200. If you need a source, let me know.

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PM Sent.. .. I figured you wouldn't want 60psi of oil.. but then again.. what do i know.. lol..
Old Jan 25, 2006 | 10:03 PM
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Mindgame: I'm interested in spring oilers (well, their benefit) . Can you explain/elaborate/give a source?

Do the valve covers have a "rail" that feeds the springs, and a fitting that you attatch on the outside of the cover?

I've never seen/heard of them. But it sounds interesting .

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Old Jan 26, 2006 | 07:57 AM
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Re: Head's Finally Showed up...

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Mindgame: I'm interested in spring oilers (well, their benefit) . Can you explain/elaborate/give a source?

Do the valve covers have a "rail" that feeds the springs, and a fitting that you attatch on the outside of the cover?

I've never seen/heard of them. But it sounds interesting .

Ryan
that's what i'm assuming.. I'm guessing it's fed via a line off the block that mount's to the outside of the valve cover.. The trick would most likely in my opinion, be aiming the squirter's to hit the spring's But then again spray pattern's could fix that...
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Found this excerpt on the net..

With racing engines pushing the rpm limit ever higher, the weakest link has become the valve- springs. They are required to be super strong to keep the entire valvetrain under control at extreme rpm without breaking or even losing pressure over time. You can help them do that by making sure they stay cool. This is especially important in dry-sump engines where you are pulling a lot of vacuum throughout the block and inside the valve covers. Now, any cooling oil that reaches the springs is quickly sucked off and pulled back into the oil reservoir.

Use oil squirters to make sure a steady stream of cooling oil is showering your valvesprings. The conventional route is to use squirters built into the valve covers. They are relatively simple but require an extra line be run from the pump to the connection on the valve covers. A simpler route is special rocker arms with a squirter built right in. These are special shaft-mounted pieces that receive oil from the pushrod and use it to lubricate the shaft. A small hole drilled into the body of the rocker allows oil that's pumped in around the shaft to squirt out and onto the valvespring. This doesn't provide quite the coverage that valve-cover systems do, but it still works very well.

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Old Jan 26, 2006 | 12:01 PM
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Re: Head's Finally Showed up...

Again, intersting.

I did a search (goodle) and I couldn't find any information. Is this a perimeter valve cover only club? I hope not .

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Old Jan 26, 2006 | 08:36 PM
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Again, intersting.

I did a search (goodle) and I couldn't find any information. Is this a perimeter valve cover only club? I hope not .

Ryan
That's because you're using that inferior search engine Goodle. Try Google next time Ryan!

No, I don't see why a centerbolt couldn't be built with oilers. I haven't seen one but that doesn't mean anything.

The valve cover oilers are going to work better as they will supply a larger volume of oil to the spring. As long as they're properly designed that is.

Here's a pic...

http://community.webshots.com/photo/...40931547sVEXZV

Most don't use any kind of "down tube" they're simply tubes with strategically located oiling holes in them. I'll try to get you a better picture this weekend.

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Old Jan 26, 2006 | 09:24 PM
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Oops . I tried google (and goodle for grins...Hey, try it, maybe you speak wingdings? ) and still no links for a retailor. This doesnt seem like something you find at Summit when valvecovers are catalogued under "Dress up" .

That pic is different that I would imagine . I guess if someone knew what they were doing (not me) they could fabricate this setup on almost anything. Obviously, the whole point is the strategically placed oil holes.

About 15 bucks worth of fittings from Home Depot and some tubing. Couple hours of bending and flaring and you could have a nice hidden "valve spring savior kit." I'm very interested if you could give me some contact info . I'll give my local machine shop a call tomorrow. As large as Houston is, surely someone can give me the 411.

Thanks for the pic(s) .

Ryan
Old Jan 26, 2006 | 09:57 PM
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Re: Head's Finally Showed up...

Comp has some for $408 but they are perimeter bolt covers.

Centerbolts would probably be fabbed up.

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Old Jan 26, 2006 | 10:14 PM
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Looks like you are married by that ring on your finger. How can you justify those to the wife??? JK

Looks like your porter will be glad to see those done and out of his sight. Some time will be needed, hope they come out well.

As strocker said no pushrod pinch at all.

Is that the typical wait time for their heads? Also what is the going cost I never looked into them since I have not pieced together a setup in a bit.

Better get at it summer is coming.
Old Jan 26, 2006 | 11:26 PM
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Yep, this will be a fab job. Nobody markets a cast or stamped cover with bars in them. That isn't to say that some really inventive guy couldn't take a good cover, drill/tap and plumb everything up.

Sorry Ryan,
I missed the interest when I read your post, I'll send you a PM with a source.

On another note.... do not even consider a cover that doesn't have a billet rail on it. Some of the el cheapo sheetmetal covers don't!

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Old Jan 27, 2006 | 01:15 AM
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Re: Head's Finally Showed up...

Originally Posted by IllusionalTA
that's what i'm assuming.. I'm guessing it's fed via a line off the block that mount's to the outside of the valve cover.. The trick would most likely in my opinion, be aiming the squirter's to hit the spring's But then again spray pattern's could fix that...
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Old Jan 27, 2006 | 01:32 AM
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Guess the grammar police showed up..... not always a bad thing.



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