Hardened Pushrods
Man your such a dummy..... when I said that the Comp R's couldn't take the standard loads that a valvetrain will see OVER 6200rpm that PROVED my point, not yours. It's funny that a STOCK OEM lifter CAN handle the SAME VALVETRAIN and the Comp R's that failed couldn't.
EVERY valvetrain has pushrod flex, valve bounce etc... it all depends how you handle it. Jesus this is like arguing with a 2 year old. How bout we just say "BECAUSE DADDY SAID SO!"
Bret
Bret

On the LT1, no guideplates were used.(CC503, SA Comp Pro-mags), on the 5.0 there were guideplates(custom cam, NSA Crane RR's).
Apparently you have a problem with Bret's wording or use of the word "junk". I believe that after seeing enough failures of certain parts he tends to use the term junk more freely for those items. Perhaps the word inferior should be used rather then junk.
I do also find you to be extremely lucky, because i had Comp R's fail as well. Honestly i understand where he is coming from because these things we are seeing are not isolated incidents, and it is better for people to know whats happening out there to these items. Also i treat my advice as i am giving to a complete Newbie, because at one point i was a Newbie and given advice on parts selection...some selections i was assured would work, failed and at the cost of damaging other items, later to find out there was a better option for very little extra money. This is one of those cases where its a very reasonable upgrade, for a small fee for one of the most crucial items in your valvetrain.
Apparently you have a problem with Bret's wording or use of the word "junk". I believe that after seeing enough failures of certain parts he tends to use the term junk more freely for those items. Perhaps the word inferior should be used rather then junk.
I do also find you to be extremely lucky, because i had Comp R's fail as well. Honestly i understand where he is coming from because these things we are seeing are not isolated incidents, and it is better for people to know whats happening out there to these items. Also i treat my advice as i am giving to a complete Newbie, because at one point i was a Newbie and given advice on parts selection...some selections i was assured would work, failed and at the cost of damaging other items, later to find out there was a better option for very little extra money. This is one of those cases where its a very reasonable upgrade, for a small fee for one of the most crucial items in your valvetrain.
Anyways... Bert.. it was an honor for such a high roller as yourself respond to my piddly posts. I have goose bumps all over.
What it comes down to is not all hardened pushrods are "junk". Just like all spec clutches aren't "junk" just like Comp R rollers are not "junk" as long as you know how to use them. For the amount of failures with these components there are twice as many testimonials. If it weren't the case then the manufactuers of said components would've been put out of business long ago. I appreciate the feed back and your stories. However the only way to be convinced of something like this is if the failures outnumbered the success stories. I think it's supposed to work that way? In other words.. not the opinion of one rock star will sway what I've experienced for myself.
Thank you and goodnight!
Last edited by SS RRR; Feb 14, 2007 at 06:45 AM.
If you could have a hooker that might have an std for $160, or you could have one that you know is disease free for $210. What would you go with???
I'll spend the extra $50, thanks.
good stuff...
lets look at another angle...
so we have a 6000 rpm small block..pushrod moves up and down 3000 times in a minute..... 50 times a second.....you need strength but it would also be advisable to have low total weight...so if you can find really strong, really light weight push rods then you have less moving mass that has to stop and change directions 100 times a second..exerting force on the valve spring...roller cams compound the problem as they usually have higher ramp rates...just another thing to think about...
G
lets look at another angle...
so we have a 6000 rpm small block..pushrod moves up and down 3000 times in a minute..... 50 times a second.....you need strength but it would also be advisable to have low total weight...so if you can find really strong, really light weight push rods then you have less moving mass that has to stop and change directions 100 times a second..exerting force on the valve spring...roller cams compound the problem as they usually have higher ramp rates...just another thing to think about...
G
Can you please tell me witch one to go with....I don't have much experience with hookers. WTF does that have to do with pushrods? lmao
What is the difference between these 2 pushrods other than the price?
http://store.summitracing.com/egnsea...=KeywordSearch
An early post in this thread recommmended tapered pushrods. Are there any available that will work in the LT1?
http://store.summitracing.com/egnsea...=KeywordSearch
An early post in this thread recommmended tapered pushrods. Are there any available that will work in the LT1?
What is the difference between these 2 pushrods other than the price?
http://store.summitracing.com/egnsea...=KeywordSearch
An early post in this thread recommmended tapered pushrods. Are there any available that will work in the LT1?
http://store.summitracing.com/egnsea...=KeywordSearch
An early post in this thread recommmended tapered pushrods. Are there any available that will work in the LT1?
good stuff...
lets look at another angle...
so we have a 6000 rpm small block..pushrod moves up and down 3000 times in a minute..... 50 times a second.....you need strength but it would also be advisable to have low total weight...so if you can find really strong, really light weight push rods then you have less moving mass that has to stop and change directions 100 times a second..exerting force on the valve spring...roller cams compound the problem as they usually have higher ramp rates...just another thing to think about...
G
lets look at another angle...
so we have a 6000 rpm small block..pushrod moves up and down 3000 times in a minute..... 50 times a second.....you need strength but it would also be advisable to have low total weight...so if you can find really strong, really light weight push rods then you have less moving mass that has to stop and change directions 100 times a second..exerting force on the valve spring...roller cams compound the problem as they usually have higher ramp rates...just another thing to think about...
G
Bret


