the ppl who've pulled out all the emissions stuff, do you feel a difference as far as power? i mean, is it worth? these cars produce lots of pollution without all that crap.

 

power wise probably not worth it but as far as popping that hood and being able to see the **** you need to, it is worth it.....

 

Definitely do it. You drop some weight off the car, plus its easier to work on and cleans up the overall appearance. BTW, Hyperspeed97z28 - Have you deleted the EVAP system/charcoal canister?

 

what about the emissions though? doesnt it increase pollution like 10 folds? doesnt it smell much worse? what about the computer going coo-coo!!

 

PatriotTA...... I still have the EVAP system and canister.... but no egr or air.....

 

You won't see any power increase from removing that stuff. IMO, there is so little stuff "in the way" that it does not justify removing it. I guess I am just used to it. It does not bother me.

 

Things like AIR, EGR and EEC don't operate at WOT, so other than the SMALL weight penalty, there is no way they can hurt performance (assuming the systems are properly maintained). You could also consider the PCV system to be an emissions system, and bit of a clutter, but you would be foolish to remove it, unless you added an alternative system.

Removing EGR will likely cause increased emissions of NOx under part load, low RPM conditions. These conditions are used for rolling (dyno) emissions testing, so it might cause problems with passing NOx. The quench effect of the exhaust gas replacing air (oxygen) under part load, low RPM conditions can actually reduce the liklihood of detonation from lugging the engine in the wrong gear.

Removing AIR will simply mean it takes the cats longer to heat up. Since the worst polution comes from the engine on cold start, removing AIR increases emissions dramatically, but this conditon is typically not tested during rolling emissions checks. Of course if you've already lost the cats, AIR is useless.

EEC recovers HC vapors that would vent to atmosphere. In effect, it will net you a SMALL fuel mileage increase, since EEC puts these vapors into your combustion chambers. The car may also have a problem with gasoline fumes without the EEC system. I know when mine wasn't working the fumes from the C16 racing fuel brought tears to my eyes when the window was open.

 

AMEN

i dont have a single emmisions device on my car and im LOVIN IT SOOOOOO much cleaner and nicer to work under the hood!!

DOWN WITH THE TREE HUGGER SH*T

BTW its easier to remove that crap if you have headers also

 

i have headers. and i think a big dog came by and ate my cats, cause they arent there.